State EV Fees -

[Riv_Goat]

I don't think any of the other states I've lived in have charged a usage/ownership tax annually...the sales tax was enough for them.

Add Missouri to the list of states that tax personal property (cars, boats, etc.). Our Model 3 was $1100 the first year we had it, so it won't surprise me if the R1S is around $2k

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[moosetags]

Virginia has it too for about $200. Something new I saw though is we just renewed the registration on a little 4 cylinder Ford Escape last week and got hit with a "fuel efficient vehicle fee" because it gets over 25 mpg haha...

Of course we get hit with a property tax on every vehicle in addition to income tax, sales tax, registration, inspection ,etc and a lot of the roads around here at HOT (High Occupancy Toll) roads

Isn't that some fine crap, being charged extra because you have a fuel efficient vehicle.

Brian

 

[SDH]

Anyone in the People's Republic of California want to chime in? I haven't had my renewal yet but I bet it's going to be one of the highest in the US.

 

[jjswan33]

Isn't that some fine crap, being charged extra because you have a fuel efficient vehicle.

Brian

They do the same in Oregon. The idea is more fuel efficient vehicles pay less gas taxes (per mile driven) so it is graduated inside the registration fee, and also applies to EVs.

 

[vandy1981]

Someone needs to pay for the roads and registration fees like this are probably the least invasive way to make up the difference in state and federal gas taxes.

Mileage-based fees wouldn't address interstate travel. This is obviously a bigger problem in smaller states in the Northeast than California or Texas. Government GPS tracking is a political non-starter in the USA.

Index the EV fees to curb weight and call it a day. This would encourage lighter vehicles that would be more efficient and safer for pedestrians.

 

[Fencer]

$338 to renew in Utah wondering what Wyoming is charging.

 

[Kamster]

Can't wait to get my R1S, Between VA taxes, the Highway Usage Fee should be a fun check to write. Electric are exempt from emissions inspections but still must have annual safety inspections, again depending on where you live, some places in the state require safety inspections every 3 years. go figure.

 

[mabowden]

Anyone in the People's Republic of California want to chime in? I haven't had my renewal yet but I bet it's going to be one of the highest in the US.

Mine was $1141.

 

[breeves002]

Missouri charges $100/yr. However you can just choose not to get the sticker.

When I had my Focus Electric the DMV would say "You need this sticker it's $100". I just politely said no and they said ok and let me on my way. I'd get a letter from the state every 6 months saying that if I was caught it was a $500 fine. No cops had any clue what it was back in 2015 when EVs were really rare.

Now I register in MT so no sticker required but they do charge extra on the registration. The sales/personal property tax saved is worth it!

 

[azbill]

Anyone have any AZ registration fees? Looking at buying an R1T soon and figured it'll be around $1400.

Pretty simple: New cars are taxed 2.80% on 60% of their MSRP in Arizona.

They used to give EVs an exemption, I registered my Mach E for 5 years for just $75. Last year that went away.

 

[Grabs10]

Missouri charges $100/yr. However you can just choose not to get the sticker.

When I had my Focus Electric the DMV would say "You need this sticker it's $100". I just politely said no and they said ok and let me on my way. I'd get a letter from the state every 6 months saying that if I was caught it was a $500 fine. No cops had any clue what it was back in 2015 when EVs were really rare.

Now I register in MT so no sticker required but they do charge extra on the registration. The sales/personal property tax saved is worth it!

I was going to suggest Montana registration via a LLC. May come to that point for me but Idaho is still doing OK on ev fee…. It’s not outrageous yet

 

[superfly_snook]

If the purpose of taxes is to both drive behavior AND generate revenue then a mileage/use tax on EVs doesn’t make sense as it would discourage people who will actually drive a lot from purchasing EVs.

 

[BigSkies]

I’m happy to pay my share for road maintenance. I don’t get too worked up about how they calculate “fair”, as long as there’s some reasonable basis.

What actually annoys me is that gas taxes haven’t collected enough for o fund road maintenance for decades. Road repairs are subsidized by all the other taxes out there along with debt. I’d rather we stuck with the idea that gas taxes + registration fees should pay with the associated road infrastructure.

I think we’d be making very different choices about transportation overall if we were paying the true cost of road maintenance.

 

[mabowden]

Anyone in the People's Republic of California want to chime in? I haven't had my renewal yet but I bet it's going to be one of the highest in the US.

Also just a head's up in case it happens to you. I did not get my registration renewal in the mail like normal. I'm guessing it had something to do with the company that Rivian hires to do the reg. I had to contact the DMV during the month of the renewal and they had to prepare the documents for me via email.

 

[mcupp40]

Can't wait to get my R1S, Between VA taxes, the Highway Usage Fee should be a fun check to write. Electric are exempt from emissions inspections but still must have annual safety inspections, again depending on where you live, some places in the state require safety inspections every 3 years. go figure.

I'm in VA. Just taxes were $2k. Registration was ~$200

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