Self park feature?

[BG_ATX]

I believe OP feels that SW updates that Tesla has been issuing on their vehicles for many years, improving and increasing the vehicle utility, is the norm; hence, Rivian will do the same - maybe.

It's a reasonable assumption that Rivian will continue to evolve and add, which I think they have been doing a great job of over my 9 months of ownership. I think everyone wants more and some people place certain features higher than others. Like it or not Tesla is who most people compare to because they've been around longer. I saw a news article within the past week where Tesla made "major" updates to their self-park feature, which sounded as if it was a POS before. I wondered if Rivian even had the hardware to do it, which from this thread it sounds like it does. Whether it ever materializes in a useful implementation is another topic, and sounds as if it isn't even on the radar right now with other features at higher priority.

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[Virtio]

I used to dread parallel parking but with all the cameras and sensors on the R1S it's pretty easy. It would be great if they added the ability to remotely move the vehicle forward and backward to assist when someone has parked too close and I can't open the door sufficiently to get in without hitting the other car.

 

[YouKnowWhatsUp]

I tried to parallel park my R1T yesterday for the first time and I could have used some park assist. Even I was laughing at myself after my 3rd attempt. I tapped on the 360 camera and it changed to a view of the curbs so I could see what my tires were hitting. Have your wife try that button. I use that since the mirrors don’t auto tilt down like my last 4 cars.

 

[DevSecOps]

Yeah that's a bridge I have been trying to cross with her. She has tried self park a grand total of one time. But has been a fan of it based on her research around it (she is a PhD so goes deep into all that).

Personally, I could care less about this feature.

Understandable. Maybe provide her with some counter research? Some companies are actually getting rid of it because of dissatisfaction and lack of use.

https://www.caranddriver.com/news/a46683694/ford-parallel-parking-tech-discontinued/

I honestly think she needs to give it a few more tries before hanging her hat on something based on research alone. It sounds like she's requesting features based on emotion vs practicality.

 

[UnsungZero_OldTimeAdMan]

I used to dread parallel parking but with all the cameras and sensors on the R1S it's pretty easy. It would be great if they added the ability to remotely move the vehicle forward and backward to assist when someone has parked too close and I can't open the door sufficiently to get in without hitting the other car.

Agree. A vehicle this big (and not all parking spaces being standardized) I can see the utility. But, personally, this being the most amount of $ I've ever spent on a car, if I see parking that tight, I pass.

 

[YouKnowWhatsUp]

I have no idea what Rivian is planning - question answered. However...

Has she actually tried self-park on any other vehicle or is this just a keeping up with the Joneses?

Every vehicle that I've owned with self parking capabilities, Tesla included, is the biggest waste of time, 1/2 the time it can't find the spot and the other 1/2 of the time you're holding up traffic trying to get the damn thing to work.

The real world practicality of self-park isn't there in my honest opinion. Have her try it and then see if she still wants it.

I had a 2018 Volvo XC60 that could self park in super tight spots. It was not perfect but it was better then the auto park on my 21’ Tesla Y

 

[DevSecOps]

I had a 2018 Volvo XC60 that could self park in super tight spots. It was not perfect but it was better then the auto park on my 21’ Tesla Y

I'm not saying they don't work. They work fine when they find the spot and then you go through the 20 different prompts telling you how to operate it.

Personally, I can parallel park 10 times faster than letting the vehicle go through it's guided parking routine. Just like some people like to camp in the left lane going 20 under the limit, there will be those who take 10x longer, holding up a line of cars while they try to get their automated parallel parking system to work. I don't like being behind either, so I don't do either. Maybe they shouldn't have removed parallel parking from driving exams (supposedly because it had the highest failure rate) and we wouldn't have this problem.

 

[akc5247]

I'm not saying they don't work. They work fine when they find the spot and then you go through the 20 different prompts telling your how to operate it.

Personally, I can parallel park 10 times faster than letting the vehicle go through it's guided parking routine. Just like some people like to camp in the left lane going 20 under the limit, there will be those who take 10x longer, holding up a line of cars while they try to get their automated parallel parking system to work. I don't like being behind either, so I don't do either. Maybe they shouldn't have removed parallel parking from driving exams (supposedly because it had the highest failure rate) and we wouldn't have this problem.

100% agree. This is exactly what I've been telling her and trying to convince. So far, no dice.

 

[akc5247]

It's a reasonable assumption that Rivian will continue to evolve and add, which I think they have been doing a great job of over my 9 months of ownership. I think everyone wants more and some people place certain features higher than others. Like it or not Tesla is who most people compare to because they've been around longer. I saw a news article within the past week where Tesla made "major" updates to their self-park feature, which sounded as if it was a POS before. I wondered if Rivian even had the hardware to do it, which from this thread it sounds like it does. Whether it ever materializes in a useful implementation is another topic, and sounds as if it isn't even on the radar right now with other features at higher priority.

Not to go on a tangent, but would features like this (maybe a package equivalent to L2 autonomous) and say $5k more in MSRP entice even more buyers?

Of course, it would need to be implemented correctly and well done, otherwise it can go belly up as well.

Thinking out loud.

 

[ddimit]

The expectation that Rivian’s software stack is as good as Tesla’s is today is ridiculous. Tesla has been doing this longer than anyone else, and is multiple generations ahead of everybody. If impatience with certain impending features is deterring from purchasing/keeping a vehicle, then maybe Rivian isn’t your best option.

True, my 2015 Tesla did not have self-parking until two years later. It does it with the Ultrasonic sensors only. There are no cameras in this era, and I have used it frequently. It does a perfect job every time and gets into spots I would have a hard time doing. It has never curbed the wheels.

Under that assumption, the Current R1's should be able to do this as well

 

[beyondgravity]

Hi all,

I had asked this on another thread, which I can't seem to find anymore.

Does anyone know if there is automatic park (self park equivalent in Tesla) is being planned anytime soon?

Personally I don't care much for it. However, for my wife, that is a big deal and she would most likely not be in favor of keeping the R1S (at the end of our lease) if the self park feature is not an option by then. Any insights - appreciated.

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I agree. Self park feature would be cool; but I am not sure Rivian algorithm has advanced that much. It is a new company, mind you.

If it is not for Elon, I would have gone for M3. For me MY is bloated M3. I am really lazy and if the car can self park, I would definitely prefer that; but I wouldn’t do that to keep up with the self-park Joneses and ‘hell no’ for Elon.

I also need some color inside a car; rather then dystopian Tesla interiors.

ok back to your wife. If she wants self-park, definitely go with Tesla. If it is her car, let her choose; else it will come back to haunt you.

 

[akc5247]

I agree. Self park feature would be cool; but I am not sure Rivian algorithm has advanced that much. It is a new company, mind you.

If it is not for Elon, I would have gone for M3. For me MY is bloated M3. I am really lazy and if the car can self park, I would definitely prefer that; but I wouldn’t do that to keep up with the self-park Joneses and ‘hell no’ for Elon.

I also need some color inside a car; rather then dystopian Tesla interiors.

ok back to your wife. If she wants self-park, definitely go with Tesla. If it is her car, let her choose; else it will come back to haunt you.

well said. If EVs, she is Tesla only. She was okay because Rivian is primarily what I drive to work.

As an aside, the lack of EV infra during road trips (with a 3 and a 1.5 year old in the back) has also been an equally big turn off for her.

 

[Chengo888]

I see that others have asked for it as well but don’t see it on the roadmap. I’m not sure who or how this is managed. https://riviansoftware.canny.io/wish search for Park Assist.

 

[Dustyshades]

With all due respect, that is not a good defensive, when you spend almost $100k on a vehicle.

Everyone has their priorities. It doesn't mean the viewpoints are silly either.

Idk have you heard about feature sets?

This is usually how decisions are made. You don’t build a product to have every single feature available that every single person will want. You target a specific segment be build the features that are most important to them and price the produce accordingly to what that group will play.

Rivian has a bunch of cool / unique features that other cars do not. You can either feel that’s worth it and pay the price or if it’s not, go buy a car that offers that feature.

(For what it’s worth, I own a cheaper car with self park and I almost never use it cause it’s just easier to park yourself in almost every scenario.)

 

[ozziegt]

She has no issues parking.
Recently our friends getting new Teslas (with the FSD free trial) and this self park feature is again back up high on her list.

Have they demoed it and does it work well? Last time I checked, the self park feature was running into garage walls and poles. I wonder how well it can work without any radars or ultrasonic sensors. Just having the feature on the checklist doesn't mean it works well and can be trusted.

Why does a Mercedes have massage seats and a Ferrari doesn't? Different priorities. Rivian isn't the only 80k car without self park, there are lots of them. It's not really a sensical question.

Rivian does need to tweak where the lines show up on the camera, I feel like I bump into curbs a lot more with the Rivian than my other cars if I am just trying to guide based on the lines on the camera.

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