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I completely agree with everything you said. I want to touch on this for a minute though. If I took a pull through because nothing else was available I would use the pull through and waited until one of the other ones was open and then moved. Or I would have put a piece of paper saying call...

Tolerance is a part of being considerate for sure. But there has to be balance otherwise you'll get walked all over. I think there's a lot of assumptions being made throughout this thread. I read the irate Tesla owner in the OP as having issue with occupying 2 stalls. Some other people take...

Good to know ... I for one don't agree. There's a number of posts on this forum where people are pissed because Rivian owners used the pull through when they didn't need it. It's basically the same thing, but here we are saying it's okay now to block chargers... Charging etiquette isn't some...

It's not Photoshop. I was delivering the unit, not using it to charge. I still got a lot of snarky comments. I have a 24kw Generac at home that I charge both EVs with during outages however and it works great. Because those units only have 2 stages it makes sense to dump the excess power...

Again you're missing the point. Let me make this easy ... Please confirm that you're perfectly fine with a Tesla double parking at a RAN with a line of Rivians waiting to charge. Everyone should be asking themselves if that's what they expect from EV owners. This has nothing to do with Tesla...

That's because they are retooling the factory and orders are on hold. Nothing flaky.

Nah.... But you might get some strange looks.

Just like the other person pointed out, you're seemly and blatantly missing the point or creating a false narrative. No one, in 12 pages, has said the OP shouldn't have been there. The OP has every right to charge his EV, just like anyone who owns an EV. However, courtesy, etiquette and...

It's sad how many people do things with disregard for others just because they "can". I could go to Chick-Fil-A and spend 15 minutes in the drive through ordering for 30 people at the office but that would be fucked up and inconsiderate (instead go in or order ahead). I think there's a lot of...

Yes, all the time. I basically live in Sacramento and Newport Beach. So I'm always charging down there and in between. I know that EA in SoCal can be a mess. But if you read what I said in my first post on this topic you'll see that I've said we need more etiquette at chargers. I also think...

Sure, it sounds like that if you ignore what the OP did. The OP drove 20 minutes to another town just to use a Tesla unit. Most of the time the wait at an EA is less than that when there's 3 units. The OP also said he had a L2 at the hotel and only had 10 minutes left on the Tesla DCFC. That...

That's true. But here's the thing. The OP could have waited in Davis for one of the 3 EA stations to open up. He could have also used one of the 3 EVGo stations in Woodland, not the ones he mentioned in Davis. Instead he decided to make people wait for him by blocking 2 stalls at the Tesla...

No I didn't. He said that 2 people pulled up prior to the screaming idiot that had to either move/wait. One got a vacant station. 2+1=3. Obviously if there's another vacant, any reasonable person would move and understand. Tesla #2 had to wait, so did the idiot.

And the OP stated that he blocked 3 Tesla's. Especially given that the OP also said he had 10 minutes left and the hotel had a charger, I would have given up the TWO spots out of courtesy. I would hope that others would be considerate as well, but I don't expect anything. If the OP was at 5%...

I clearly said that's what I would have done, not what he should have done. While I have just as much the right to charge as anyone else, I personally don't feel that I have the right to block 2 spots and prevent someone else from charging. That's my personal belief.

I commend you for keeping a cool head. There's plenty of things that irritate me at EVGo, EA etc that people do. Charging to 100%, a Bolt using a 350 instead of an open 50, picking a power share when others are open and the list goes on. This has nothing to do with Tesla owners or Elon. It's...

Look, I don't doubt one bit that you're being honest about those idiots on this forum. I've said as much, that there's a handful of idiots. As someone who drives 15k miles a year in my R1T and another 15k in my Tesla (for work) I can tell you from a lot of experience that Tesla is annoying, to...

I think we'll just agree to disagree. While there are some people who will drink and drive, they will do it regardless of an ADAS system. I don't believe drunk people have the capacity to think "I'll be safe because I have an ADAS system." They would drive home regardless because it's a...

Exactly, so stop blaming the technology that's there to assist. It's not the cars fault that some dumbass decided to do something stupid. ADAS systems (regardless of what they are called) are safety features. People will abuse them, but the few that abuse the system don't speak for the...

You either have no idea how autopilot works or you are just part of the problem. Hyperbole isn't a good look. Driver+ is more lax than AP hands down. Where's your outrage over Driver+? I have both, drive with both, and AP is far more annoying and restrictive. It punishes you for things you...