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Some of those numbers doesn't make sense For example, 77 kW and adding 75 mi/h means 1020 Wh/mi rated, which is obviously wrong Also, Tesla rounds up or down the percentages, so it could be anywhere between 71.5 and 70.5 to 65.5 and 64.5, so best case scenario 5% for 16 miles for 320 miles...

I would say in part, likely would have to restrict the peak power a bit, plus the low range increase that would make it a even worse deal If Rivian does the smart thing, they would fit smaller Rivian motors on each wheel, don't need 2x the dual motor setup, but that goes against cost savings...

Sure, first, I'm not battery expert, but work with them and designed and tested my fair share of packs on my career so far, so anyone feel free to correct me There is a few things you need to balance, electrode and current collector thickness (by the way, this is one of the places the tabless...

Just some hard numbers going from the cells for the Large Pack On Munro teardown you can clearly see the Large Pack uses Samsung INR21700-50G cells, each is 17.787 Wh, with 7776 cells, the large pack is 138.31 kWh gross If they use LG INR21700-M58T the Max Pack, each is 20.4 Wh, resulting in...

This is completely wrong Without getting to technical, the way they do it is to change the phase of the magnetic field such as it's not in its optimal position for efficient torque production, so for the same wheel torque the total current increases. The input power increases for the same...

And they are actually designed as it's own product, instead of the mess of cobbled together third party parts which most other chargers are

Lets make a granola bar bet? :D You don't use usable capacity for specific energy calculations, or if you use, you have to use for everyone else also, else you are not comparing apples to apples On Model 3/Y yes, not on Model S/X, all are PM, and even if the front motor was induction, when...

I don't know where he got 81.2 Wh per cell, V1 was 86.5 Wh Here is the original test data https://www.batterydesign.net/tesla-4680-cell/

Gen 2 4680s are on par with 2170s at 267 Wh/kg. Rivian large pack cells are 248 Wh/kg, Max Pack cells are 273 Wh/kg Also, Tesla does some magic with their motors that even without a disconnect there isn't that much range penalty Model S Plaid to regular Model S, adding a whole motor only loses...

True, and now they stopped lol, so still correct I tried two ways to estimate it's consumption First by looking at segments Tesla already is on the market, and taking the most efficient competitor from legacy OEMs, averaging that, Tesla is usually 8% more efficient on EPA ratings, that would...

It isn't Model S/X use 18650 cells, 3/Y/Semi uses 2170 like Rivian, Cybertruck uses the 4680s

They didn't, people took it wrong when they showed the immersion cooling cable tech and said Cybertruck would use that also V4 Stalls use that cable, as so do the Semi chargers, but they aren't interchangeable, and it doesn't even make sense, one is NACS, other is MCS. At the upper limit the...

I think the will is there because deliveries haven't started yet, there were other instances they said it is using 800 V

There were rumors V3 also supports 800 V with stall cable upgrades, but never seen anything confirmed, V4 Stall supports, but we never seen a V4 Cabinet yet https://digitalassets.tesla.com/tesla-contents/image/upload/IR/TSLA-Q3-2023-Update-3.pdf

I think we might see three options, there is two weight classes on the VIN numbers, my personal speculation is that it will be two battery pack sizes, the dual motor you can have with both packs, and the performance or whatever its called only with the larger one And they can be aggressive on...

On one hand, the battery pack is bigger and there is likely more overall materials than a Model X On another, it should be cheaper to build once they ramp it, specially since it's volume will be higher than Model X ever was, and the most important point, they get $45/kWh of manufacturing IRA...

Agreed, but quite hard for us to figure out, will have to wait a few more weeks or until someone gets it and weights A while ago I did some napkin math to try to figure out how much weight there is on stainless steel panels, it was around 300 kg if everywhere was 3 mm thick The questions are...

The ignore function is a blessing in any online community, it's amazing how few you have to mute for the toxicity to go away, meaning it's just a few sour apples that ruin for everyone Here just go to the profile and click on ignore

Nice, well done for the team Also Tesla released their VIN decoder, if payload is still 3500 lbs, mean it will weight less than 5500 lbs for one version, likely the dual motor, and less than 6500 lbs for another

The second generation 4680s they are making right now are on par with 2170 cells on energy density, 95 Wh and 355 g cells gives 267 Wh/kg, first gen was 244 Wh/kg Rivian cells 17.3 Wh and 69g results in 250 Wh/kg Pack level energy density for Tesla peaks at 181 Wh/kg, and Rivian 170 Wh/kg...