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  1. Self driving update: Gen 2 and Gen 3 Autonomy on R2 should be similar for a "couple of years"

    There's no point. The people mostly paying for A+ will be new car buyers, who the most of them will get the new RAP1 computer There's no need to put out a roadmap if you don't have to
  2. Self driving update: Gen 2 and Gen 3 Autonomy on R2 should be similar for a "couple of years"

    when they don't want to develop it anymore. There are too few r1 vehicles for it to matter
  3. Rivian Communication RAP1+Lidar

    on the same page you could preorder a rivian I don't believe tesla ever mentioned anything beyond what can be interpreted as L2 on their website And past 2018 the description for FSD had very few things it would do
  4. Rivian Communication RAP1+Lidar

    it did. Not when the cars were actively being sold, but before then.
  5. Rivian Communication RAP1+Lidar

    Rivian on the website advertised the car as having eyes-off (level 3 capability.). In an interview he talked about the rivian drivingn down a trail and meeting you at the bottom. That would be level 4 as the car doing that would have to be performing the entire DDT. Here is rivian claiming...
  6. Rivian Communication RAP1+Lidar

    RJ sold gen 1 R1 as having level 4 autonomy as well
  7. Rivian Communication RAP1+Lidar

    This is not correct and a misunderstanding. Tesla only in public ever made statements that the car would do certain things. At no time did they ever actually sell a car in writing that ever did these things. On the other hand rivian actively did sell a car as doing things it never did...
  8. Self driving update: Gen 2 and Gen 3 Autonomy on R2 should be similar for a "couple of years"

    Edmunds was the one that said the model Y had the best ride quality when comparing all of these different EVs (prologue, equinox EV, ioniq 5, etc.) The mach e never had good ride quality your first problem is believing that the juniper and old model Y (comfort suspension) are even remotely similar
  9. Self driving update: Gen 2 and Gen 3 Autonomy on R2 should be similar for a "couple of years"

    We're talking about the same price range. Ioniq 5, EV6, Mach e, etc. These are the competitor vehicles. The difference is big from the "comfort" suspension in an old model Y. Tesla upgraded the seals around all windows and glass. They also upgraded the seals around the mirrors. A small layer...
  10. Self driving update: Gen 2 and Gen 3 Autonomy on R2 should be similar for a "couple of years"

    It's not a tad quieter. It is about half the perceivable interior noise. It is very quiet and most modern tesla are very quiet. Cybercab is supposedly really silent People used to put sound dampening materials all over a tesla body and it doesn't seem to do anything. It seems like 90% of the...
  11. Self driving update: Gen 2 and Gen 3 Autonomy on R2 should be similar for a "couple of years"

    It's in the earnings report The current average cost is around $35K The model 3 is currently selling for $29K in canada. It is the premium chinese model
  12. Self driving update: Gen 2 and Gen 3 Autonomy on R2 should be similar for a "couple of years"

    Tesla reported at one point the average cost of their models was $36K. I believe they did so in 2024 as well. This includes S/X and cybertruck which admittedly do not sell a lot There are 60% fewer parts and a 50% smaller battery. The cost difference for injection molded plastic panels alone is...
  13. Self driving update: Gen 2 and Gen 3 Autonomy on R2 should be similar for a "couple of years"

    The cost to produce a model Y is around $36K. They have said this many times. The average cost of tesla models is very low in general. When you factor in trim features, included interior/paint, financing, ranges, etc. the Model Y is about $10K less than the R2 Add in cost reduction and 60%...
  14. Self driving update: Gen 2 and Gen 3 Autonomy on R2 should be similar for a "couple of years"

    Years ago as this was claimed back when the cybercab was first revealed. guess that was late 2024 so not exactly years If tesla builds a drivable variant of the cybercab, steer by wire still signficiantly reduces the part count. And as far as cheap cars from china, it's not easy to build a car...
  15. Self driving update: Gen 2 and Gen 3 Autonomy on R2 should be similar for a "couple of years"

    There was a video by munro years ago after tesla claimed 60% fewer parts in a cybercab. If you count all the parts not in a car and remove 2 seats it is already indeed more than half. You also get more reduction from the new technology. Reducing part count by60% will bring you that much cost...
  16. Self driving update: Gen 2 and Gen 3 Autonomy on R2 should be similar for a "couple of years"

    Cybercab platform is much cheaper. The part count of a cybercab is half of a model 3 and costs less than $20K to manufacture. Tesla can build a 4 seater somewhere around $20-25K U.S. Tesla is also selling the model 3 premium in canada for $29K. Rivian wishes they could make cars this cheap.
  17. Self driving update: Gen 2 and Gen 3 Autonomy on R2 should be similar for a "couple of years"

    The cybercab will be for sale to consumers but the rumor is tesla is building a car off that platform. It is a 4 seater and manually drivable. There's a lot of technology that goes into the cybercab platform that allows them to build cars using the unboxed method. Etherloop connection, front...
  18. Self driving update: Gen 2 and Gen 3 Autonomy on R2 should be similar for a "couple of years"

    If you actually drove the old model Y, the new one is a huge difference. Tesla has leapfrogged the competition in ride quality, interior cabin noise, and build quality whereas the previous model Y was really noisy and had a very harsh ride. All of the only downsides over the competition (other...
  19. Self driving update: Gen 2 and Gen 3 Autonomy on R2 should be similar for a "couple of years"

    Tesla has a lot more rumored cars than you think they do. The issue is they know autonomy is not here and in the future, even if autonomy is here they will still make cars. They are rumored to be working on a 4 seat variant of the cybercab platform. Model Y, Model Y L, cybertruck, model 3 If...
  20. Does using Autonomy+ on your personal Rivian help advance it?

    If I'm not mistaken it is the opposite The data is collected from manual driving





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