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Exactly this.

Toyota is no slouch - when they enter this segment , they will be major player. Do not underestimate their ability and scale.

Nice !

Rule # 3 : NEVER underestimate the other guys greed ! ?

so just park a 2010 F150 next to a 2021 F 150 to see for yourself

and heaven forbid if collision damage / bodywork occurs ! ?. .. if it's totaled then it's back to the end of wait list for years to get another .. shudder even the thought.

Motor Trend also picked the Edsel for Car of the Year in 1958 and the Corvair a few years later. Folks , it's MotorTrend .. just sayin'

This.

Honestly , I can't imagine waiting 3 years for what will be a 7 year old design by the time they take delivery ! ⛓?

Agree. The Rivian's I have seen at night are rather underwhelming. It just doesn't 'pop' like the LED on other high end vehicles.

"..the dealer said"... ? ..the chance of the sales critter that told you that still working there by the time these vehicles arrive in the showroom is about < 5 % ... you are probably correct about the timing though ✅

This is actually quite a huge deal + being able to power a home ?

xxx " They are so pissed off at Ford for the Bronco situation that two of them may be dropping their Ford franchise over it." ya right ? .. like a franchisee is gonna dump their whole operation over a customer ? .. whew* that's rich ! lol

exactly this

doubtful , but keep in mind by then the Rivian will already be a 7 year old design ??‍?

ikr ! ?

Rivian made a good choice ✅??