"I would never want to be stuck waiting for an EV to charge"

[SwampNut]

I bet a few of these are the same people who say they'd never want to be stuck waiting for an EV to charge. Hahahahaha. Meanwhile I leave full every day, never have to do this, except on a road trip. I did the math once on the amount of time I didn't spend at gas stations, 8 minutes at a time, and it would have been more than all my road trip charge time.

Gas line before shopping:

Gas line after shopping:

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[Mellowyellow]

The line for Costco gas is always long!

 

[SwampNut]

This is Sam's, my experience with Costco is that it's even worse.

Let's idle for 20-30 minutes to save 27 cents!

Also it's 103 degrees here today, cars and their occupants love the heat while sitting around idling near 47 other hot cars.

 

[Eeyore]

You have to stop to pee eventually.

 

[schlosrat]

You have to stop to pee eventually.

True.

The real time cost for charging on a road trip should deduct the time you spend eating at least. You *might* get away with using the restroom while you're filling your ICE vehicle, but not likely. You are almost certainly not filling a gas tank and eating at the same time, unlike charging an EV.

The more annoying thing to me is the exorbitant cost of EV charging at a DCFC station. Of course, most of us do the vast majority of our charging at home, where cost is typically much less and convenience is the best.

 

[CharonPDX]

I bet a few of these are the same people who say they'd never want to be stuck waiting for an EV to charge. Hahahahaha. Meanwhile I leave full every day, never have to do this, except on a road trip. I did the math once on the amount of time I didn't spend at gas stations, 8 minutes at a time, and it would have been more than all my road trip charge time.

Yeah, I have a friend who says he'll buy an EV when an affordable one has 500 miles of range. "Because I want to be able to drive from Portland to Seattle and back without having to stop to charge." (By the way, that's only ~450 miles round trip, assuming by "Portland" and "Seattle" you mean the furthest-apart suburbs of each.)

"Why? Your gas car can't do that in one go."

"I don't want to have to wait a couple hours to charge."

"In my slow-charging Ford Mach-E, I only had to charge for about 20 minutes during that very trip. And that's assuming the destination I'm visiting doesn't have a charger, which it often does."

"I don't want to wait 20 minutes to charge."

"You don't get out to use the bathroom, get food, etc, after getting gas? Isn't your entire gas+others stop about 20 minutes?"

"…"

 

[Eeyore]

300 miles of range is just about right for me. I can easily drive from Salem to Shoreline (north of Seattle) without stopping to charge, and that's all I need. I installed a 50amp outlet at my son's house the first time I visited driving Arty just so I could charge overnight and drive home.

 

[Ecupip]

If they only knew how much time they actually wasted at the pump and getting to one constantly.

 

[shamoo]

First of all, Costco gas lines are always long. "Normal" gas typically never has a wait. Maybe 5 minutes tops.

Second, it is extremely difficult to change people's mindsets, and impossible if you're just an EV hater. You know the types who just comments on EV posts just to rile people up? Who knows if they're trolling for fun, unwilling to debate/learn, or actually ignorant.

As a motorsports enthusiast, I can say I had the same mindset BEFORE I got into my first EV (2022 Tesla Model S Long Range). I had range anxiety like crazy. 4 years later, it is still in my head, but it bothers me less. I quickly realized some key things:

• How often am I driving longer than a single full or nearly full charge (200-250 miles or more)? Once a month maybe.
• How often am I driving 500+ miles on a trip? Once a year maybe?
• Wow, I never have to go to a gas station. I wake up with a "full" charge every morning. It is no extra work for me. I effectively never go to a gas station unless I'm taking another vehicle which is my fun car (I don't care about filling up then) or my motorcycle which gets nearly 75mpg and has a 1.5 gallon tank. I park and take 2 seconds to plug in. I also have solar in my home which is an extra perk since SoCal electricity rates are ridiculous.
• Tesla chargers are open, so with optimized charging scheduled, I only have to stop for 15-25 minutes.
• Tesla chargers are EVERYWHERE. You plug in and go.
• I have a 5 year old son. I have to stop anyway.
• We can watch YouTube/Netflix/etc in an air conditioned car.
• An EV is the best no nonsense daily driver. You get in it and go.

But like I said, you don't realize a lot of these things until AFTER you own one.

You're going to have a hard time convincing someone otherwise. Maybe a few will listen and say "hm, I didn't know that", but are they really convinced 100%? Probably not. I wasn't until I owned one.

 

[Jonger1150]

I can't wait till the day hits when ICE vehicles are rare to come across. So tired of the smell and noise.

 

[Effopec]

And I would never want to be stuck waiting to get my oil changed.

 

[electruck]

people overlook the inconvenience of the familiar and panic over the unfamiliar. simple fear of the unknown with no real objective basis.

 

[Proxy]

I always use the Costco example to explain EV road trip charging. I know people that only fill up there, even on road trips. I explain it is the same situation, it takes a while, there aren’t tons of them and you can go at certain times to avoid long lines. The big difference is that when I’m not in a road trip I don’t have to do that.

 

[ukyank]

I dislike & avoid using EVs for road trips for that reason, but they’re better for all other normal driving

 

[Zoidz]

"I don't want to have to wait a couple hours to charge."

The same person who sits idle while spending two hours a day FB, Twitter, TikTok, YouTube, .........

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