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So did we find out in the thread where the 4 hour requirement stems from?
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OP's original post. His wife.So did we find out in the thread where the 4 hour requirement stems from?
I meant, why 4 hours at 75mph specifically? Is it a random number or does it correspond to a specific road trip?OP's original post. His wife.
I fly small planes that burn 100LL AvGas, so not a big worrier about the environment. I want to drive an EV for convenience and the awesomeness of the vehicle.If the sun burns out, what we drive won't matter but what we breath everyday now does to many of us. Many would say I'm a hypocrite since I still own an ICE car along with my EV. I still take flights that use fossil fuels, maybe an occasional cruise also. We each make choices within our ability to do so. Not judging others for those choices goes a long way to keeping and making new friends. Saving the planet isn't something I put at the top of my reasons for my daily choices but I try not to ignore that it does affect our health now and future generations. When people criticize my choice to drive primarily EVs, they usually don't care to hear why I do and I don't try to force them to listen. Same when it comes to politics and religion. Live and let live. If people don't buy EVs, less congestion at the DCFCs when I take trips...lol. Look for the silver lining hard enough to be happy.
OP's original post. His wife's rule for buying an EV.I meant, why 4 hours at 75mph specifically? Is it a random number or does it correspond to a specific road trip?
I have basic reading skills and gathered this much. I was curious as to where the rule came from.OP's original post. His wife's rule for buying an EV.
It says it in the post lol.
Seems like that's how his wife likes to travel.I have basic reading skills and gathered this much. I was curious as to where the rule came from.
Now you're just trolling to pad the page count on this thread.Seems like that's how his wife likes to travel.
Something about his wife spontaneously combusting if they have to make a stop shorter than 4 hours on any given road trip.I have basic reading skills and gathered this much. I was curious as to where the rule came from.
Or maybe that ignores the fact that ICE vehicles became economically dominant largely because cheap crude oil made them affordable enough to overcome their higher operating costs. That gave the market enough runway to mature, scale, and displace the original EVs that existed in the late 1800s and early 1900s.THat's ignoring the fact that EVs became economically feasible in large part due to incentives that made their initial purchase cost low enough for their lower running costs to actually net out positively. That allowed the market enough runway to mature to the point where the incentives may no longer be needed.
Those incentives were very clearly and explicitly designed with environmental benefits in mind.
Went to college in Arizona, have family in Tucson, (actually on the border of Sahuarita and Green Valley halfway between Tucson and Nogales) and visit often. I am very familiar with driving all over the Southwest. ABRP in theory does take temperature into account. And yes, I have turned off AC to eek a few extra miles out of my battery on drives and discovered that the Rivian's ventilated seats become useless once the interior air is hot.You’re from PDX, so you’re forgetting that it’s 40°C down here half the year lol.
You are always pulling a trailer? My Hummer is around 1.7-1.9m/kwh.My Sierra EV's lifetime (14,6k miles) efficiency is 1.2 mi/kwh
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I promise I'm not trying to be a dick here, but, that still doesn't invalidate what I said in the original post. You're saying that the range in current EVs is sufficient, while I'm saying that it's not. You're proving my point by saying you need to charge in anticipation of driving through the open desert in the southwest. Until EVs have a 400-500mile range and there are plentiful charging stops, the average EV owner needs to be mindful when driving down here.Went to college in Arizona, have family in Tucson, (actually on the border of Sahuarita and Green Valley halfway between Tucson and Nogales) and visit often. I am very familiar with driving all over the Southwest. ABRP in theory does take temperature into account. And yes, I have turned off AC to eek a few extra miles out of my battery on drives and discovered that the Rivian's ventilated seats become useless once the interior air is hot.
But yes, realistically, if you do PHX-TUS-PHX, you're going to want to recharge either in TUS or on the way back to PHX. But if you're stopping to do things in TUS, there's a possibility of finding charging near where you're stopping, so it may not even take a dedicated "charge stop".
As much as I can. It's why I bought it.You are always pulling a trailer? My Hummer is around 1.7-1.9m/kwh.
The IQ got 2.1m/kwh on our trip and much of the highway driving was 75-85mph.
Destination charging is the key to unlocking the greatness of BEV travel. The problem is hotel charging sucks. It is either hogged by a-holes or broken. The good hotel L2 is not free, and includes an idle fee. That is rare.I promise I'm not trying to be a dick here, but, that still doesn't invalidate what I said in the original post. You're saying that the range in current EVs is sufficient, while I'm saying that it's not. You're proving my point by saying you need to charge in anticipation of driving through the open desert in the southwest. Until EVs have a 400-500mile range and there are plentiful charging stops, the average EV owner needs to be mindful when driving down here.
Granted, not everyone wants to leave their island bubble in a major metro area where the chargers are so plentiful that range doesn't matter; I absolutely never want to charge at public charging, because it's simply better to charge overnight at home/the hotel, while sleeping. The longer the range, the less public charging you have to do.