Not possible to turn off 1 pedal driving?

[mkg3]

...I absolutely cannot stand 1 pedal driving....

Why oh why would they not make this an option you can disable on the R2?

Most folks on this forum loves OPD - I do not. If you search OPD here, you'll find ton of comments about it.

It's too bad that Rivian does not implement variable regen braking like may do. While feathering the throttle pedal can control the braking degree, along with the 3 settings provided, it does take getting used to. Once you have gotten used to it, its fine for what it is.

The biggest issue with OPD for me is that I don't like to use cruise control and the Rivian regen is such that it does not allow the vehicle to coast very well. As such, its like driving a powerful fast golf cart having to keep the power to maintain consistent speed.

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[CharonPDX]

I went from owning 3-pedal vehicles exclusively to owning 1-pedal-drive EVs.
I’ll never go back. So much more control once you get used to it.

 

[mrose]

You are correct! You should no own an EV if you are against regenerative braking, good luck with ICE car

 

[SwampNut]

Nissan is well known for making shitboxes, so don't compare their probably faulty implementation to a modern EV. It took me all of five minutes to get used to it, and now I curse having to drive an ICE without it.

 

[UnsungZero_OldTimeAdMan]

For someone that has only driven EV without ICE experience, no regen induces a short "omg we are careening out of control" feeling.

Most drivers new to EVs will feel regen as herky jerky. Those new to ICE will fair much worse in control, smoothness, reaction time, and safety.

That is exactly what coasting is. You aren’t in full control for the duration. Laws of physics are.

 

[UnsungZero_OldTimeAdMan]

They also said, I believe it was RJ, that you would probably never need to replace break pads.

That isn’t true. And I don’t think he would say anything that irresponsible. Even with Rivian’s high regen it’s still not aggressive enough to slow/stop vehicle quickly enough if initial speed is high enough. And if brake blending feature is enabled brakes will be applied automatically when the feature’s parameters are met. I have a very long hill near me, a parkway through two residential communities, with posted limit of 50 mph. To not touch the pedal before the intersection at the bottom, I would have to ease off the pedal so early that I would be impeding traffic much sooner than any other ICE vehicle.

Those who have never touched their brake pedal probably drive very slow or have never had emergency situations where manual application is needed—e.g. being cut off by another car, a car running red light, an animal running across, etc.. And those who say Rivian’s regen is too aggressive are either exaggerating or their impression is being made/taken out of context (in comparison to another car, that they are more accustomed to, with weak or no regen). These cars have greater weight than other cars of similar size (because of batteries). And they have larger than average size brakes for a reason. Rivian did not choose large and very capable brakes for looks.

Again, nothing wrong at all with direction Rivian has taken. Think about the amount of mass and horsepower each Rivian car has. It would be insane and unwise to not have adequate stopping power. And it would be equally unwise for any consumer to want or wish a car this heavy and powerful to have compromised safety.

Get past the knee jerking. Think more deeply.

 

[JM.]

I share my R1T with a person who always set regen to minimum. I finally got that to change, and now, he loves it.

 

[Donald Stanfield]

OPD is the best thing about EVs

 

[DucRider]

You are correct! You should no own an EV if you are against regenerative braking, good luck with ICE car

One pedal drive and regen are not the same thing.

Regenerative braking is slowing the car by using the electric motors (and adding charge back to the battery). This can be done from either pedal.

Rivian (and Tesla) have discreet systems for the electric motors and physical brakes. The left pedal controls the brake pads, the right pedal the electric motors. This ties regen only to the throttle pedal.

Vehicles with blended braking systems allow you to use the brake pedal for regen. There are many EV choices that are set up this way (some are so good you have no idea when the physical brake pads engage).

A side benefit to blended systems is they can dial additional regen in from the brake pedal even when in one pedal drive mode.

I love one pedal drive, but don't project that on everyone. A small minority of EV drivers don't like it. I like that I can turn off one pedal drive in icy conditions - even driving EVs for years my old brain is still wired to back off the throttle when sliding. This effectively applies the brakes and often not what you want to do in low traction situations.

 

[JeepEVer]

I test drove the R2 yesterday. I found that even the LOW setting for Regenerative Braking was too "grabby". My Tesla with LOW (normal driving) and HIGH (commuting) is better tuned to my preferences.

 

[UnsungZero_OldTimeAdMan]

I test drove the R2 yesterday. I found that even the LOW setting for Regenerative Braking was too "grabby". My Tesla with LOW (normal driving) and HIGH (commuting) is better tuned to my preferences.

And you only drove it for how many minutes? Like driving an unfamiliar ICE with different steering ratio, throttle response and brake performance: you get used to it in matter of a week. Even on high regen.

This issue is a nothing burger. Same reason I see little value in short test drives of any car. ICE or otherwise. Not long enough for anyone to get full sense of each car.

 

[Mos Eisley]

I test drove the R2 yesterday. I found that even the LOW setting for Regenerative Braking was too "grabby". My Tesla with LOW (normal driving) and HIGH (commuting) is better tuned to my preferences.

Having only driven R2 for about 30 minutes, I agree that the impact of level 1 is more than I thought it might be. Also the range from level 1 to 3 is not as wide as I expected, not that those expectations were in any way based on long-term experience

 

[Mos Eisley]

This issue is a nothing burger.

Well - it's not. There could be a less-aggressive L1... there could be more aggressive L3. There could be five grades instead of 3, there could be the ability to turn it off. All are valid desires for any random driver. To @JeepEVer it is a fair issue. I'll get used to but there will be a part of me occasionally that will miss truly coasting. Not a criticism of Rivian - just one driver's desire.

 

[UnsungZero_OldTimeAdMan]

Well - it's not. There could be a less-aggressive L1... there could be more aggressive L3. There could be five grades instead of 3, there could be the ability to turn it off. All are valid desires for any random driver. To @JeepEVer it is a fair issue. I'll get used to but there will be a part of me occasionally that will miss truly coasting. Not a criticism of Rivian - just one driver's desire.

My R1T was my first EV. And prior to the demo drive for it I had never driven an EV. I am telling you it not a big deal and this… and other freak outs like it, are borderline hysteria. People are far more adaptable than they give themselves credit for. But, of course, believe whatever you wish over actual experience of others who have already been through it. Threads like this always get to a point when beliefs are belabored over practical/real points and become pointless. It’s like arguing about religion. Myths vs realities.

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