Any other Canadians on this group yet?

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    I live 5 or 5-1/2 months of each year in Quebec so I guess I qualify. In QC the charging situation is pretty good. In trying to get a handle on what the Rivian might be like up here I have been venturing out into the countryside where the Tesla chargers are pretty thin. flo/CircuitElectrique seem to have the province pretty well covered. The only potential problem is that the DC "fast" chargers seem to be limited to 50 kW. The Rivians are going to drink about 450 Wh/mi and thus to add 100 miles (162 km) range is going to take around 45/50 = 0.9 hr. For comparison my Tesla Model X takes about 300 wH/mi and thus adds that same 100 mi range in 30/50 = 0.6 hr. Not, IMO, that much difference really. The reality of travel with a BEV is drive a couple of hours, charge a few minutes, drive a couple of hours more, charge a few minutes... This is fine with me for the kind of leisurely driving I like to do but I realize it may not be so appealing to those who need to get from point A to point B as fast as possible. Perhaps at this point a BEV is not the best choice for such people. In the States there are programs underway to get more high power (> 100 kW) chargers insralled. Don't know about up here.
     
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    Simple. Just look at the other party's roster of potential candidates.
     
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    "Simple. Just look at the other party's roster of potential candidates."

    Thank you!
     
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    #24 Zach05855, Sep 7, 2019
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    Petro Canada is rolling out their new Electric Hwy coast to coast with 200 kw chargers for now , but upgradable to 300kw in the future

    Just go to their website
     
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    #25 ajdelange, Sep 8, 2019
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    This is a plus, of course, and eventually, as the fleet comes to include more vehicles that will accept charge at higher rates I am sure Petro Canada (and EV America) will up the power available from their chargers. Currently the limit seems to be about 100 kW.

    Right now Petro has 8 stations shown as working a mariusque ad mare and, at least in Quebec, it seems that the Circuit Electrique CCS/Chademo stations limited to 50 kW is where you go if you are not a Tesla driver. It's going to be a while before there is a network of chargers across Canada (or the US) that supports fast charging of cars other than Telsas. Of course it is going to be a while before there are a lot of cars, other than Tesla, on the roads that can accept fast charging. I am certain that though there may be some inconvenience at first things will eventually work out to everyone's satisfaction. I do NOT think the current state of affairs and the minor inconveniences it implies should discourage people from ordering vehicles like the Rivians in Canada or the US.
     
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    #26 ajdelange, Sep 8, 2019
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    I forgot the most important thing. Go to Abetterrouteplanner.com and try a few of your own trips. In it's last upgrade it added alpha models for the R1T and R1S vehicles. If the Rivian is to be your first BEV then there will be lots for you to try and learn. If you have been driving a BEV you will be familiar with how things work.

    Note that ABRP is pessimistic about consumption using 1.94 mi/kWh as its default (you can change that to play around). "Over 400 hundred miles" with a 180 kWh battery suggests more than 2.22 mi/kWh. The 1.94 number is estimated for 65 mpH by the program.
     
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