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Tesla has always said that it will not make the Supercharging network a profit center. Remember that Tesla's mission is to accelerate the world's transition to sustainable energy. https://www.tesla.com/about
That being said when another company comes on board, they can expect to make little or no profit by participating in the Supercharging network.
Why not? IIRK Musk has said that another company using the network would have to pick up its share of the cost of that network meaning that it would be required to pay its proportional share of capital costs (for expansion), maintenance costs and, of course, for the electricity that people with its brand of vehicle buy from the network. They are free to mark up any or all of these components as much as they want to IOW they could make their use of the network profitable. That's probably not a very smart thing to do. At least initially the SC network was, IMO, a marketing expense and I'd think a smart company, like Rivian, would recognize that and manage their participation at a loss, at least at first, just as Tesla did.
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There would also be the expense of working through control protocol & adapter issues. This would need to be tested extensively due to potential safety risk & liability.

Technology-wise, I don't think it would be a huge issue but still something that would need to be addressed.
 
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What adapter? Just use the Tesla cord.
But yes those physical things with a little software should be doable.
 

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There would also be the expense of working through control protocol & adapter issues. This would need to be tested extensively due to potential safety risk & liability.
Given that a Tesla can be made to look like a CHAdeMO vehicle to a CHAdeMO charger and that an iPace can be made to look like a Tesla to an HPWC I don't think the electrical and comms interfacing issues would amount to a hill of beans compared to the electropolitical issues and the billing software interface. It could be done with adapters, of course, but a much neater setup would involve the Rivian truck having two ports (evidently there are already two port locations). Another possibility is a CCS bowser on the Tesla terminals but I don't see Tesla agreeing to do that. Among other things it would doubtless result in other cars with CCS connectors attempting to hook up. And I don't see extenive testing as being necessary as both the Tesla and CCS connectors have been tested extensively already. That leaves only the software interface.
 

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According to Rivian's job postings for Carson CA, it looks like Rivian is designing & building their own EVSE & DCFC.

They must have some charging IP...
 

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That could mean a lot of different things. At one extreme it could mean that Rivian, well aware of the shortcomings of the EA network which in large measure stem from the fact that they had to go to 4 different manufacturers to get high power stations, has contracted with them to be the sole supplier of high power stations to them in the future. At the other end of the spectrum it could only men that they need people with charger (and EVSE) in order to design an effective interface. Or both. Or anything in between. The clock is ticking. It will be interesting to see what they reveal as production and delivery of the trucks nears.
 

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Please add a longer bed and a sliding rear window like the ones on my F150; one of my favorite feature on any truck body...Sadly, I have yet to see any R1T prototypes featuring these...I might ended up giving in and wait for the all electric F150 instead. It will definitely have an electric sliding rear window and a longer, more useful bed...Please, Rivian, offer a sliding rear window and a longer bed as options!!
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