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Am I alone in wishing Rivian would release an R1 with coil springs? I have never owned a vehicle with air suspension but have several friends/family that have over the years, almost all of them have had a failure of some kind. I wish Rivian would slap on some coil springs/coilovers from Fox, Bilstein, Icon, OME, etc and sell it at a discount.

I can't imagine it would be that difficult to just remove the adjustable ride height and camp mode from the software for the more basic version of the truck.
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I would guess that’s what the R2 will get. It will be interesting to see if the after market can retro an R1. The mechanical part shouldn’t be terribly difficult, it’s the software that might be a problem.
 
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I would guess that’s what the R2 will get. It will be inter
All the rumors I've read suggest the R2 will be a unibody crossover style, not a BoF truck like the R1.
 

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I definitely would have considred that if it were an option. Something similar to the DSSV suspension Chevy offers in their ZR2 trucks would be plenty for me. No one NEEDS a McClaren inspired air suspension. Rivian has stated they plan to offer more affordable vehicles in the future. I think like most automakers, they start with their flagship and move down from there.
 

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All the rumors I've read suggest the R2 will be a unibody crossover style, not a BoF truck like the R1.
Agree and without a height adjustable suspension.
 

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I definitely would have considred that if it were an option. Something similar to the DSSV suspension Chevy offers in their ZR2 trucks would be plenty for me. No one NEEDS a McClaren inspired air suspension. Rivian has stated they plan to offer more affordable vehicles in the future. I think like most automakers, they start with their flagship and move down from there.
Oh for sure! That would be even better but I would still take just regular coil sprung suspension, something like in the Sasquatch bronco.

Agree and without a height adjustable suspension.
I want the BoF truck. I have a boat to tow and beaches to roam.
 

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Options are good and I can see why some people want the simplicity of metal springs. A height-adjustable suspension was an absolute requirement for us. I don’t know of any other way to get great handling on the freeway and high ground clearance when off road… and we go off road a lot.

Being lower for high speed handling and higher for low speed trails has serious advantages if you drive long distances to go off pavement.
 

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I really like the air suspension that's what makes the R1 the swiss army Knife of trucks. If they did another truck say the R2 sure make it more basic but to have an R1 with coils would cheapen the lot of R1's in my opinion.
 
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Options are good and I can see why some people want the simplicity of metal springs. A height-adjustable suspension was an absolute requirement for us. I don’t know of any other way to get great handling on the freeway and high ground clearance when off road… and we go off road a lot.

Being lower for high speed handling and higher for low speed trails has serious advantages if you drive long distances to go off pavement.
These are trucks, no need to be as low as a hyper car when on the road, plus the ride is just way too harsh at that low setting. Look at the F-150 Raptor with its electronically controlled dampers. It has one of the best on road and off road rides you can possibly have.

If you just do a a quick glance at recent threads on here you will see several people talking about their truck "sagging" to one side. This is a complaint of air suspension from several manufacturers.
 
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I really like the air suspension that's what makes the R1 the swiss army Knife of trucks. If they did another truck say the R2 sure make it more basic but to have an R1 with coils would cheapen the lot of R1's in my opinion.
I understand what you're saying, but I don't agree. If Rivian want's to sell more R1's they need to broaden their portfolio, a unibody crossover isn't going to appeal to people like me. They can still offer the air suspension, I'm not saying to remove it, I just want an option for more traditional dampers.
 

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If Rivian want's to sell more R1's they need to broaden their portfolio
The Normal factory has a target capacity of 150k units per year, that's split between the three models currently being produced there. The R2 factory is going to have a target of 400k units per year. I don't think Rivian wants to sell lower end R1s, and they have no need to.
 

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I understand what you're saying, but I don't agree. If Rivian want's to sell more R1's they need to broaden their portfolio, a unibody crossover isn't going to appeal to people like me. They can still offer the air suspension, I'm not saying to remove it, I just want an option for more traditional dampers.
If Rivian wants to sell more R1s they need to be able to build more R1s because the demand is still far in excess of the supply. Adding different options and configurations will in no way increase the speed in which they can build the vehicles so it really doesn't make any sense at this point in time.

I'm not disagreeing with you that non-air suspension should be offered, I think it's a good idea to have more options.
 

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I've got air suspension on my 2014 Grand Cherokee, never had an issue with it personally. It's got well over 100K miles and works perfect so I don't know why the Rivian would be any different
 

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Same here w flawless air suspension. I've had Ram 1500 with air suspension for almost 10 years, 110K+ miles. I love the Cadilac ride, and wouldn't want to go backwards.
 

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I've got air suspension on my 2014 Grand Cherokee, never had an issue with it personally. It's got well over 100K miles and works perfect so I don't know why the Rivian would be any different
Ditto. That's what my R1S replaced and my experience with air ride in my JGC was part of the reason why.
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