What is your guess for the Day the 1st Rivian is delivered to a Customer?

[Zoidz]

Yeah, and they may want people to sign a liability waiver and waive that 7-day test drive feature before flying over the top of Mt. Rivian and really "sticking" the landing on the other side. ?

You mean like this Raptor?

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[cmtaylor963]

Yeah, and they may want people to sign a liability waiver and waive that 7-day test drive feature before flying over the top of Mt. Rivian and really "sticking" the landing on the other side. ?

I always assumed they would have test mule loaners for use on the track?

 

[eggpaul]

Am not.

Oh, then you won't be contacted by Nov. Only launch edition res. Holders will all be contacted by Nov.

 

[DuckTruck]

I always assumed they would have test mule loaners for use on the track?

I would assume so as well, but I’d still like to try mine as confirmation. That is, except for that whole flying over Mt. Rivian and sticking the landing part. ?

 

[Smithery]

There are no rivian dealers for company Owned centres to deprive of business. Is that not why Tesla has an exemption?

I believe that was the motivation here.

"Ford, you cannot sell direct from a dealer in this state because there are already established Ford dealers in this state"

"Tesla, you wouldn't be competing against any established dealers or service centers for Teslas, so you're clear"

 

[eggpaul]

I wonder when they will tell us the EPA. If the production vehicles are ready to be built, why can't we know the EPA?

 

[Babbuino]

I wonder when they will tell us the EPA. If the production vehicles are ready to be built, why can't we know the EPA?

I'm expecting with the release of the app, so early Sept.

 

[DucRider]

I believe that was the motivation here.

"Ford, you cannot sell direct from a dealer in this state because there are already established Ford dealers in this state"

"Tesla, you wouldn't be competing against any established dealers or service centers for Teslas, so you're clear"

The intent of the legislation that was passed in 2014 was specifically crafted to exclude any direct sales by auto manufacturers. The wording is such that for sales, a manufacturer cannot compete with any dealer selling vehicles, regardless on whether it is the same brand.

Any manufacturer that already held a dealers license (Tesla was the only one AFAIK) was exempted from the prohibition.

The service facility prohibition may contain a gray area that allows manufacturers to own/operate them as long as no dealers are able to service the vehicles in question.
I'm relatively certain the Auto Dealers Association will, at some point, assert that Rivian, Lucid, Polestar, etc are indeed competing with them for services such as tires, alignment, brakes, etc.

The original intent of these laws was indeed to prevent manufacturers that sold franchises to come into a market and compete against their franchisees, both for sales and service. Some States, such as Washington, have "clarified" them to prohibit manufacturers from selling direct at all (and in Washington's case, servicing vehicles).

 

[cc84]

I wonder when they will tell us the EPA. If the production vehicles are ready to be built, why can't we know the EPA?

I may very well be misinterpreting the below statement from the latest Rivian email, but I interpret they have started production already, just waiting for the go ahead on the first deliveries. I expect Rivian either meets, or exceeds their EPA estimates, or so close they don't feel there'll be any impact on their sales.

".....With all of this, I am excited to report we have started producing vehicles that reflect all of our quality iterations and design refinements......"

 

[drwatershed]

If there were a pool I would bet on Monday Sept 20. What I don't understand is why the guide contacts have not told people any delivery dates yet and why those have not leaked out. Supposedly the guides will contact us to organize final delivery. If people have been contacted then they must at least be shooting for a window. Did they make folks sign an NDA? I would think they want that info to leak out.

 

[eggpaul]

I may very well be misinterpreting the below statement from the latest Rivian email, but I interpret they have started production already, just waiting for the go ahead on the first deliveries. I expect Rivian either meets, or exceeds their EPA estimates, or so close they don't feel there'll be any impact on their sales.

".....With all of this, I am excited to report we have started producing vehicles that reflect all of our quality iterations and design refinements......"

Hoping design refinements and quality iterations means Mercedes quality body gaps.

 

[cohall]

I may very well be misinterpreting the below statement from the latest Rivian email, but I interpret they have started production already, just waiting for the go ahead on the first deliveries. I expect Rivian either meets, or exceeds their EPA estimates, or so close they don't feel there'll be any impact on their sales.

".....With all of this, I am excited to report we have started producing vehicles that reflect all of our quality iterations and design refinements......"

Certainly possible that’s what he meant, but I read it slightly differently. I thought he was indicating that they have made all the changes to the line needed in order to meet their quality requirements, but was not necessarily indicating that the vehicles meeting these requirements are customer production vehicles.

Quite frankly, I hope your interpretation is correct and mine is wrong.

 

[cc84]

Certainly possible that’s what he meant, but I read it slightly differently.

Quite frankly, I hope your interpretation is correct and mine is wrong.

? Try your interpretation this way, with only this part of his statement.....

" I am excited to report we have started producing vehicles"

If they aren't producing vehicles now, RJ may need to be more careful in his choice of words. ?

 

[Gshenderson]

9/32. Rivian time.

 

[SeaGeo]

Certainly possible that’s what he meant, but I read it slightly differently. I thought he was indicating that they have made all the changes to the line needed in order to meet their quality requirements, but was not necessarily indicating that the vehicles meeting these requirements are customer production vehicles.

Quite frankly, I hope your interpretation is correct and mine is wrong.

Same.

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