Well, guess it was my turn. Hit by a red light runner.

[Rividiculous]

I have to say, KRo’s Rivian Blue R1T looks good even after getting smashed up.

I’m sorry this happened and am glad no one was hurt. Like others, I appreciate your level headedness. (I’d be pretty upset.)

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[KRo]

I have to say, KRo’s Rivian Blue R1T looks good even after getting smashed up.

I’m sorry this happened and am glad no one was hurt. Like others, I appreciate your level headedness. (I’d be pretty upset.)

Thanks! I get it dirty, then I get it meticulously clean. Both processes I love to do…

 

[KRo]

If that was me, I'm 99.9% sure that Tesla would have been smoked. I'm too much of a defensive driver to not notice an oncoming vehicle not slowing for a red light. When my light turns green, I always glance to make sure nobody is still coming through the intersection....just a habit that I've always had since I started driving. I guess I just don't trust other drivers.

It’s a tougher intersection to navigate than it seems on video. There are two left turn lanes, and the ‘lines’ that separate them through the radius are completely indistinguishable. It is common for the right lane to cut into the left, as well as the left to swing wide to the right… so my defensive driving is making sure I’m clearing anything the person in the left hand lane may do, and I provide space or adjustment as needed.

This left turn lane also enters a downward sloping road at a pretty decent grade, so the sightline making the lefthand turn is limited, which brings a lot of focus to making the turn. Myself, being in a truck, offers a better sightline being higher. The Model Y on my left would have been reduced.

Basically, a large part of your attention is focused on making the left turn in a safe manner. I DID notice the van right before he entered the intersection and went for the brakes, but couldn’t turn right or it would have been a head-on collision and into oncoming lanes, nor turn left into the Tesla. Waiting for a couple seconds after the green would have likely been about the thing I could have done to prevent, but it was a full second before I entered the intersection from a stop after turning green.

Speaking to the two sheriffs that arrived later to the scene, they stated that this is the worst intersection on this road. They have the highest numbers of accidents in this same turn lane. If you look in the video and see the gouges in the asphalt, they are from a semi-trailer collision rollover event just a few weeks before. I’ve seen a few Lamborghinis lose their bodywork in this same spot. Guess it was my turn.

In the end, it happened and that’s it. It’s easy to scrutinize the video footage and see other options (which I see as well) when you aren’t driving, but when you are in it, you are in it.

 

[White Shadow]

It’s a tougher intersection to navigate than it seems on video. There are two left turn lanes, and the ‘lines’ that separate them through the radius are completely indistinguishable. It is common for the right lane to cut into the left, as well as the left to swing wide to the right… so my defensive driving is making sure I’m clearing anything the person in the left hand lane may do, and I provide space or adjustment as needed.

This left turn lane also enters a downward sloping road at a pretty decent grade, so the sightline making the lefthand turn is limited, which brings a lot of focus to making the turn. Myself, being in a truck, offers a better sightline being higher. The Model Y on my left would have been reduced.

Basically, a large part of your attention is focused on making the left turn in a safe manner. I DID notice the van right before he entered the intersection and went for the brakes, but couldn’t turn right or it would have been a head-on collision and into oncoming lanes, nor turn left into the Tesla. Waiting for a couple seconds after the green would have likely been about the thing I could have done to prevent, but it was a full second before I entered the intersection from a stop after turning green.

Speaking to the two sheriffs that arrived later to the scene, they stated that this is the worst intersection on this road. They have the highest numbers of accidents in this same turn lane. If you look in the video and see the gouges in the asphalt, they are from a semi-trailer collision rollover event just a few weeks before. I’ve seen a few Lamborghinis lose their bodywork in this same spot. Guess it was my turn.

In the end, it happened and that’s it. It’s easy to scrutinize the video footage and see other options (which I see as well) when you aren’t driving, but when you are in it, you are in it.

I wasn't trying to criticsize your driving at all.....I'm just saying that I've seen that very same accident happen over and over again. That's why I always take a moment to make sure other traffic has stopped or is in the process of stopping before I go through an intersection where my light had just turned green. But I completely agree with the double turn lane thing. That's another one of my pet peeves----too many drivers don't understand that they need to turn into their lane and not effectively switch lanes during a turn. That's something else that I see all the time and it's another easy way to get into an accident.

 

[R1Sky Business]

I was in the right of two left hand turn lanes… morning sun was in the oncoming driver’s eyes and he didn’t see the red light. Video tells the rest.

I gotta say, the R1T can take a hit and leave me nearly completely clueless that something happened. Felt more like a pothole than a Ford Transit Connect…

I’m completely drivable, he is totaled. Fortunately he was OK, and I kept checking on him when he didn’t get out of his vehicle for a while.

Bottom line, it’s a beautiful blue-bird warm Oregon day, and everybody is ok. It’s going to be alright.

So Gary is finally doing his job.

 

[OldGoat]

First, glad that everone is OK. As someone who rides a motorcycle, I am terrified by all the inattentive drivers out there. Sometimes there really isn't a lot you can do.

However, seeing this and the rear-end collision I was reminded of a non-related incident. A number of years ago, we had a Spinone (large hunting dog). We are nutty about ensuring our dogs are in tip top shape and although he looked like a goofy, fuzzy, doofus (which he was), he was built like a brick outhouse, 80lbs of solid muscle. One day I am walking him on leash when a neighbors lab breaks from his fence, charges at him, leaps and flying through the air smacks into his side and falls to the ground. My dog doesn't move. He just looks down at the other dog with a 'what the hell, man?' look. The other dog jumps up, limping and wimpering back into his yard (never bothered us again).

When I look at the videos, I envision the other car trying to limp back home while the Rivian goes 'what the hell was that?' shakes it off and heads back down the road.

 

[Jnz]

For the record, the R1S driver had a daughter she had to drop off at school, and came back within 15 minutes and traded information/etc… she’s a verified witness to the crash. Although, she doesn’t know if her vehicle recorded the event from her point of view… her’s is brand new.

That is great to hear. Glad you’re ok, and the Rivian performed well. And your outlook on it is admirable. Hope the T is back on the road soon.

 

[akc5247]

Good time to remind people how important it is to pay attention to the un/under insured portion of their insurance. Does not cost a lot but that is the portion that takes care of you should something bad happen out there. A lot of states have really low minimums simply will not cover our vehicle damage.

Edit: just as an example, to legally drive in California the minimum property damage would barely cover my bicycle should someone hit it. This is from the CA DMV website.

Here are the minimum liability insurance requirements (per California Insurance Code §11580.1b):

• $15,000 for injury/death to one person.
• $30,000 for injury/death to more than one person.
• $5,000 for damage to property.

Agreed.

Not related, but wouldn't be a bad idea to check - and get if you don't have - umbrella coverage. Especially if medical bills could pop up.

Umbrella coverage is also not super expensive and would help.

And a reminder for everyone to check / review their coverage every 6 months to ensure you have the coverage you need (Plus validate no discounts are missed etc, like defensive driver etc)


OP - we are glad you (and the other driver) are both okay.

 

[KRo]

OK - I just loaded the post incident footage (to the original post) I took with my phone once the vehicle was out of the crash scene and I could spend a little time with it without all of the traffic.

Basically, it shows that the damage is limited to the skin of the vehicle. The front right crash arrestor in front of the wheel looks completely untouched, not even a scratch. Nuts!

The washer fluid reservoir got a crack, and the frunk still works. I'm totally impressed with how this truck deflected a 35-40mph impact.

I just hope I get to keep both of my horns after repairs are completed... lol!

 

[Plevyct]

I was in the right of two left hand turn lanes… morning sun was in the oncoming driver’s eyes and he didn’t see the red light. Video tells the rest.

I gotta say, the R1T can take a hit and leave me nearly completely clueless that something happened. Felt more like a pothole than a Ford Transit Connect…

I’m completely drivable, he is totaled. Fortunately he was OK, and I kept checking on him when he didn’t get out of his vehicle for a while.

Bottom line, it’s a beautiful blue-bird warm Oregon day, and everybody is ok. It’s going to be alright.

EDITS;
- added Drive Cam footage (4/2/23 - 12:58pmPST)
- added focused footage of R1T damage, or lack thereof. (4/4/24 - 9:04amPST) - Quick assessment here: https://www.rivianforums.com/forum/...n-hit-by-a-red-light-runner.25861/post-512907

Sorry to see, glad you’re ok. I’m interested in how the insurance company and repair shop address your damage, I posted earlier that my R1S minor rear quarter panel dent and bumper repair bill came to over $60,000.00. I also received a diminished value payment of $24,000. Don’t forget to ask for that as you weren’t to blame for the accident. Damaged Rivian’s in any accident lose tremendous value.

 

[KRo]

Sorry to see, glad you’re ok. I’m interested in how the insurance company and repair shop address your damage, I posted earlier that my R1S minor rear quarter panel dent and bumper repair bill came to over $60,000.00. I also received a diminished value payment of $24,000. Don’t forget to ask for that as you weren’t to blame for the accident. Damaged Rivian’s in any accident lose tremendous value.

A diminished value check is ABSOLUTELY going to be in the cards, but have been advised to NOT contact the other insurance company until the vehicle is back in my hands and I drive away. That isn't a process I have gone through before, since this is my first incident in 32 years... but have a former insurance agent in my extended family that has already offered that option along with details.

Thank you for the reminder, however! It's also good to get an idea on possible value!

 

[Plevyct]

A diminished value check is ABSOLUTELY going to be in the cards, but have been advised to NOT contact the other insurance company until the vehicle is back in my hands and I drive away. That isn't a process I have gone through before, since this is my first incident in 32 years... but have a former insurance agent in my extended family that has already offered that option along with details.

Thank you for the reminder, however! It's also good to get an idea on possible value!

Absolutely, you wait until the repair is done, although based on your pictures they might total the car. Remember to use only Rivian approved repair facility.

 

[KRo]

Absolutely, you wait until the repair is done, although based on your pictures they might total the car. Remember to use only Rivian approved repair facility.

Yup, after police, wife and insurance, my next call was to Rivian for their approved body shop facility. Vehicle is there now being assessed.

 

[Oldsmobile_Mike]

Just came back to this thread and saw you added the video. Wow! Captured the incident perfectly.

As someone else said, funny there was at least one other Rivian around you. Glad they came back and traded info, more camera angles never hurt. I always hope if I'm involved in something similar, folks will do likewise.

Please keep us updated, am fearing they'll total it, as well.

 

[pinolero]

That's damn impressive that you are still able to drive your vehicle! Can't do that with an ICE one! Good luck with the whole insurance stuff!

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