DuckTruck
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That's a huge drain, and for what?Don’t forget Bitcoin mining!
Last I checked, FL doesn't have its electricity generated from outside the their section of the grid. More so, they've been selling it to other states. I will say this, just because FL doesn't use coal plants, doesn't mean they still don't use other fossil fuels (natural gas as one example), but last I checked they're not using electricity generated by coal.... Saying that, for example, FL closed its last coal plant does not mean that FL does not use electricity generated by coal.
Power generation from many sources, along with transportation improvements, are what any "infrastructure" program should focus on. For those who live in large metropolitan areas, mass transit solutions or are a great way to get people out of cars and lessen the need for urban road-building and space dedicated to parking. For those who don't live in urban areas, the roadways need to be improved, including the thousands and thousands of bridges that get very poor ratings by State and Federal agencies.Nuclear "could" have been an option but the perception to it is bad. Smaller nuclear that reuses the larger plants material is a promising local generation that could help alot of the rural areas in northern California, especially with the cannabis grows.
The "grid" does not work like that. Florida is part of the Eastern Interconnect. Essentially 3 "grids" for the US, WIC, EIC, and ERCOT. Power plants energize the grid, not states. There isn't a gate on state lines that say "no power comes into the state", physics determines the flows.Last I checked, FL doesn't have its electricity generated from outside the their section of the grid. More so, they've been selling it to other states. I will say this, just because FL doesn't use coal plants, doesn't mean they still don't use other fossil fuels (natural gas as one example), but last I checked they're not using electricity generated by coal.
The "grid" does not work like that. Florida is part of the Eastern Interconnect. Essentially 3 "grids" for the US, WIC, EIC, and ERCOT. Power plants energize the grid, not states. There isn't a gate on state lines that say "no power comes into the state", physics determines the flows.
Do not try to compare electricity generation and transport with physical transportation like water or natural gas.
That is not true. You can point to a few bad actors but in general capitalists are very good at taking care of their customers, because if they don't have customers, they go out of business. The government, on the other hand, is a monopoly, and the government forces you to be their customer. You cannot choose an alternative if the government does it, and if they do it poorly.Because private industry in capitalists societies has proven consistently that profit for themselves takes precedence over “the greater good”. Private industry will, and has proven this over time, knowingly destroy the environment if they personally can profit from it. That’s why we have regulations.
You are comparing a highly regulated private company with a highly regulated public utility. It is interesting to me how you compare the cost of electricity for the government run monopoly with a government controlled monopoly, and leave out how much of your taxes go towards the government run one. Do you know? And maybe your rates should be higher to cover maintenance and equipment upgrades.this much is clear. In any business making things, the largest customer, with real actual sold orders will always be #1
This is demonstrably false. it’s like saying the fire department would have more, better fire trucks and they’d be cheaper too if government didn’t run fire departments.
Where I live, electricity is around $0.08/kWh. The electricity/natural gas company is owned by the government. Rates are overseen by a public utility board which reviews any changes.
in the next province over, the government privatized their electrical utility. Their rates are around $0.13/kWh at the low end if you’re lucky to be in an area that is on that tier, and customer service and reliabilty has diminished since privatization etc.
How well has deregulation of the energy sector, allowing the “free market“ to decide worked out for, say, Texas?
1: Its not clear what the exact timeline for the Amazon vans is, and whether delays have or will occur.I find it a little weird that he R1T and R1S are delayed for what ever reason yet the Amazon vans aren't. makes me think this isn't a chip issue but something else
maybe epa figures aren't up to par or something specific to R1's ? or is it maybe they have a hard deadline for specific amount of amazon vans that need to be out by end of year?
I dont know, just speculating here. but i would like to hear out other peoples opinion on this.
I'm not surprised. Most likely, its a combination of chips AND other components made overseas. Something I've heard others in the industry discuss in various forms (interviews, podcasts, etc) is that there is a problem with getting shipping containers where they need to be. The combination of a lot of people buying consumer electronics (for work- and play-from-home) (which is also the cause of the chip shortage) and reduced purchases of American farm goods in Asia has lead to a crap ton of containers on the wrong side of the planet.To add to this, anyone find it even weirder that CS is saying that only the R1T are delayed and not the R1S ? In the configurator the R1S still says January 2022 for non launch edition while R1T now say Spring 2022.
They seem to use a lot of the same part/components aside from maybe the bed area, could the bed components maybe the reason for the delay?
We’ll have to agree to disagree. And either I misread your original post, or you misread mine response. My statement was in regards to the free market being allowed to operate unfettered by regulation. Your response seems to be about government actually running things vs regulating them. I tend to agree with you on many of those points.That is not true. You can point to a few bad actors but in general capitalists are very good at taking care of their customers, because if they don't have customers, they go out of business. The government, on the other hand, is a monopoly, and the government forces you to be their customer. You cannot choose an alternative if the government does it, and if they do it poorly.
And when they do it poorly, does the government go out of business? Or when the government performs poorly, do they just raise your taxes and make you pay more even though they are doing a bad job? Who is more accountable to the public, government, or for profit companies? For profit companies are WAY more accountable. A monopoly is hardly accountable at all. I guess every 2 years you get a chance to make them accountable, but a private company has to satisfy their customers every day.
I remain optimistic. We can do it.I have a gut feeling we're not going to hammer out the world's first lasting consensus on the relative merits of capitalism and socialism here on the Rivian forums