Towing Capacity & Range -- Possible to tow 6,500 pounds 150 miles without a recharge?

[MSU-Rivian]

I just took delivery of our R1T and am curious about towing capacity. Everything I read says to expect a 50% decline in mileage. Do you think I can tow my boat 6,500 pounds 150 miles without a re(charge). Any assistance would be appreciated. Thank you.

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[electruck]

Even without knowing which tires/wheels you have, I'm going to say no, it's pretty unlikely.

 

[Thedude]

No. I tow a 7000lb trailer and have averaged about 1mi/kw over the last three months doing it.

 

[jakef801]

It obviously depends on what kinds of grades you'll be towing it on. I've towed my 25' center console to/from SLC to Bear Lake numerous times now (about 130 miles). From SLC, I have to start out with the notorious I-80 climb up Parley's canyon, which sucks the range right out of the gate. However, from there, it's relatively benign. Since my trailer has brakes, I usually tow in conserve mode with zero issues. When going to Bear Lake, I juice up to 80% or more at the EA in Evanston, WY. I've made the return trip without having to charge (and I've actually gained 12 - 15 miles of range on the Parley's descent).

Goes w/o saying, but NEVER trust the estimated, remaining range and ALWAYS err on the side of caution and top off when and where you can. As far as long range, multi-charge trips...don't do it. I shared my experience with an enclosed, single axle Wells Cargo from SLC to San Diego and it was a horrible experience. It wasn't so much the R1T as it was the charging network. To say that the network (EA, CP, RN, etc.) Is unreliable would be a vast understatement. The infrastructure and maintenance of said charging facilities has a LONG way to go before it/they can be deemed "reliable".

 

[astonius]

Aero matters more than weight

 

[Inkedsphynx]

Not nearly enough variables provided to answer. Average temps? Elevation change? Composition of the trailer's aero dynamics?

Then you've got to factor in the occasionals that cost you range - extreme high or low temps. Rain/wet roads. Etc.

Best gauge is to assume you're going to get anywhere from 33%-50% of your overall max range when towing, depending on all the various factors involved.

I would not assume you can make this trip without at least a 10 minute stop for a little juice.

 

[Ripped]

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If I were trailering (which I will be) I'd assume about 1 mi/Kw on the flat, and about 0.6 mi/Kw towing through mountain ranges

 

[Dark-Fx]

Depends on the roads. If you can keep on 55 mph roads, probably a good chance.

 

[jakef801]

Aero matters more than weight

Agreed. However, my Wells Cargo is triangular at front. Didn't seem to matter much. My Center Console is the opposite of aerodynamic...ha ha.

 

[Deacon]

It obviously depends on what kinds of grades you'll be towing it on. I've towed my 25' center console to/from SLC to Bear Lake numerous times now (about 130 miles). From SLC, I have to start out with the notorious I-80 climb up Parley's canyon, which sucks the range right out of the gate. However, from there, it's relatively benign. Since my trailer has brakes, I usually tow in conserve mode with zero issues. When going to Bear Lake, I juice up to 80% or more at the EA in Evanston, WY. I've made the return trip without having to charge (and I've actually gained 12 - 15 miles of range on the Parley's descent).

Goes w/o saying, but NEVER trust the estimated, remaining range and ALWAYS err on the side of caution and top off when and where you can. As far as long range, multi-charge trips...don't do it. I shared my experience with an enclosed, single axle Wells Cargo from SLC to San Diego and it was a horrible experience. It wasn't so much the R1T as it was the charging network. To say that the network (EA, CP, RN, etc.) Is unreliable would be a vast understatement. The infrastructure and maintenance of said charging facilities has a LONG way to go before it/they can be deemed "reliable".

Totally agree.

 

[FNWY2004]

Going with a hard no from experience. Same weight V-Nose Car Hauler. I tried pushing to 115 miles and dipped 4kWh past 0. Rule of thumb 1% battery per mile and you’ll be safe. Also the charge time back to 80% from 0% even on a 350kW charger blows. The truck ramps down to 150kWh and says cooling battery at around 50% SOC, then continues to ramp down to 80%. If you need more than 80%, I hope you brought a good book. The crawl to 100% is excruciating.

 

[SonomaDriver]

These stories are a bit brutal but not shocking. I'm hoping that over time, software improvements will help nudge the range a tad but just as importantly, help on charging speed. My experience so far with overall charging speed of my R1T compared to my Model Y isn't favorable to Rivian.

 

[SonomaDriver]

These stories are a bit brutal but not shocking. I'm hoping that over time, software improvements will help nudge the range a tad but just as importantly, help on charging speed. My experience so far with overall charging speed of my R1T compared to my Model Y isn't favorable to Rivian.

The Y will charge faster (I think) for a couple of reasons, the biggest is the battery is only 57% (78 vs 135 kWh) the capacity of the Rivian. Second, I think the Tesla has a bit better battery management (read cooling) performance right now.

 

[pc500]

These stories are a bit brutal but not shocking. I'm hoping that over time, software improvements will help nudge the range a tad but just as importantly, help on charging speed. My experience so far with overall charging speed of my R1T compared to my Model Y isn't favorable to Rivian.

Sounds like the charging is cooling limited if what the poster above says is true.

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