I respectfully disagree, except for your experiences. My experiences only dealt with customers, day after day, in the Hardware/Lumber business. You meet a lot of different type folks and you learn how to deal with each type.I'm not young, but I'm willing to wait.
I'm ok with venting. But I have to speak up when the venting becomes accusations of intentional deceit, lying, etc. by Rivian. There is simply no evidence of this. I've experienced the challenges Rivian is experiencing first hand, many times over the past 30 years, on high tech new factory/new product startups for Fortune 500 companies. Despite everyone's best intentions and efforts from the CEO down to the production workers, things go bad and unforeseen issues happen at the last minute. Combined with the reality of worldwide COVID supply chain problems which are well documented online, it's nonsense to accuse Rivian of intentional deceit. Are they struggling? Yes, absolutely. I'm not a Rivian loyal fanboy, I've just experienced these challenges from the inside and know what they are going through.
Regarding entitlement, it is define *"the belief that one is inherently deserving of privileges or special treatment."* Many here think that since they have a $1000 refundable pre-order in place, they deserve more information, weekly emails, free upgrades due to the delays, etc. That fits the definition perfectly, does it not?
I stand by my statement, that I believe most, if not all, know they are only "entitled" to a deposit refund. Everything else is venting. I believe they truthfully know they don't deserve any privileges, or special treatment, or even a vehicle for that matter. It's only venting and seeing how far they can go. Squeaky wheel gets the grease. For this reason alone, it doesn't bother me what anyone writes on this forum. Rivian is not required to sell anyone a vehicle, no matter how long they've had their deposit in, but they are required to refund the depost, if they don't sell to the pre-order holder. That's all there is to it. We either wait and do what we're told, or go elsewhere. I'm on this forum for information such as below.
Off Topic: I know very little about electric vehicles, other than the Volt and F-150 Lightning. I know how you put these vehicles in gear, but I don't know how the Rivian accomplishes this. When viewing the pictures, I'm guessing it's done with a lever on the steering wheel and not touching the screen display??