The RAN DCFC Stations in Production

[rraj2k81]

The RAN DCFC Stations are in full production,

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[jjswan33]

How about some love outside of Cali! But glad to see some progress regardless.

 

[Autolycus]

I see enough ready-to-ship pedestals for at least 2, maybe 3 locations just in that one photo . . .

If we assume they've pushed their "3,500+ chargers through 2023" back a full year -- now plan to finish by 2024 -- then they'll need to produce an average of ~30 or so per week with no breaks. (really that's not quite right because there's lag between rolling off the line and turning it on onsite, so more like 40/week through September-October-ish 2024?

 

[Craigins]

I see enough ready-to-ship pedestals for at least 2, maybe 3 locations just in that one photo . . .

If we assume they've pushed their "3,500+ chargers through 2023" back a full year -- now plan to finish by 2024 -- then they'll need to produce an average of ~30 or so per week with no breaks. (really that's not quite right because there's lag between rolling off the line and turning it on onsite, so more like 40/week through September-October-ish 2024?

Sites are the issue, not hardware. This is probably why we see them in EV friendly CA & CO, easier to stand up a site.

Permitting and grid upgrades are the long pole in the tent.

 

[odingrey]

I might have missed it, but what are the charging speeds for these?

 

[SANZC02]

Sites are the issue, not hardware. This is probably why we see them in EV friendly CA & CO, easier to stand up a site.

Permitting and grid upgrades are the long pole in the tent.

Even in EV friendly CA it takes a long time. Last year Tesla added a 12 station Supercharger around the corner from my house it took over 6 months from when they broke ground to when the station was powered up.

 

[Autolycus]

Sites are the issue, not hardware. This is probably why we see them in EV friendly CA & CO, easier to stand up a site.

Permitting and grid upgrades are the long pole in the tent.

Of course the biggest factor will be their ability to get permits and the necessary electrical service, but when we're constantly reminded about supply chain problems affecting things like electrical components, chips, etc., all of which are pretty important to building these chargers, it's hard to not wonder if they'll actually be able to build that many charging units.

FWIW, they are making some forward progress on locations outside CA and CO, even if those aren't activated yet. Will they get to their 600+ stations with 3500+ chargers by end of 2024? We'll see, I guess.

 

[rraj2k81]

I might have missed it, but what are the charging speeds for these?

Technically they are supposed to be a Max of 350KW, as far as I know (With 800V foresight).
At the very least they are supposed to handle 500A with 400V without breaking a sweat.

 

[Dark-Fx]

Technically they are supposed to be a Max of 350KW, as far as I know (With 800V foresight).
At the very least they are supposed to handle 500A with 400V without breaking a sweat.

350kW isn't a hard limit for CCS. If everything involved can handle 500A at 440V, it could be designed to handle it at 880V too.

 

[Khaneric]

I might have missed it, but what are the charging speeds for these?

I hit a max of 215KW when i used them and they had a very good charging curve.

 

[rraj2k81]

350kW isn't a hard limit for CCS. If everything involved can handle 500A at 440V, it could be designed to handle it at 880V too.

Yeah true. If it can do 500A it should theoretically hit the 400KW range with 800V.

But I have not seen this even with the existing 800V DCFC stations yet. Most of these 800V stations are rated at 350KW and cars like Taycan and eTron GT are shown to hit 250 to 270 KW.

Even Tesla with V3 super chargers have not broken the 300KW mark from what I am seeing.

Maybe Rivian might be the first!

 

[nukem384]

Even in EV friendly CA it takes a long time. Last year Tesla added a 12 station Supercharger around the corner from my house it took over 6 months from when they broke ground to when the station was powered up.

I can one up you on this one. One of the SC stations near me in CA took almost 2 years after the stalls were up, to actually be operational. It took so long, that they are still V2, while all the other new ones around here are V3 lol.

 

[R1Sky Business]

I can one up you on this one. One of the SC stations near me in CA took almost 2 years after the stalls were up, to actually be operational. It took so long, that they are still V2, while all the other new ones around here are V3 lol.

Red Tape.....

 

[nukem384]

Red Tape.....

Yup, exactly. Ridiculous TBH

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