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Announcing our new "CLUBS" section where you can join or create a Rivian club or group! You can use this new feature to conveniently plan and discuss local events, gatherings or other club/group related topics.
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I completely agree. Tesla specs & price could definitely affect Rivian preorders, including me. I'm unsure about the "cybertruck" styling, but will reserve judgment until I actually see it.Even though Rivian is making a vehicle that targets me exactly in outdoorsy/off-road use cases, I'm still VERY interested in what Tesla offers in terms of range and realistic pricing since it will I'm sure there's some customer overlap and this could affect Rivian.
It took them awhile, but everything I've seen/heard/read is that Tesla has overcome earlier quality & consistency problems. Model Y should be even easier to manufacture, on top of lessons learned, so quality is not a concern of mine.I’m not sure any presentation could sway myself towards the “cybertruck” at this point. Interested to see what it has to offer but Elon’s descriptions are not of a vehicle I’m interested in, as well as all the anecdotal poor quality and customer service discussion regarding Tesla in general (which I can’t imagine getting better with the volume of Model Ys they expect and then add on a truck).
It seems like a lot of car companies who are pushing FSD want LIDAR as well as all the others. My guess is that is how the legacy companies will try to screw Tesla over by getting legislation to require something Tesla does not use.I don’t think I could purchase a Tesla. I think their approach to autonomous is wrong. A vision-only system* can be fooled by optical illusions, and I think they will always be chasing the corner cases to try to make the system capable of handling it. Yes they have *lots* of vehicles in their fleet, but there is a limit, IMO.
* Of course they have radar and ultra sonics, but AIUI their neural net system is fed from the 9 cameras only.
This is quite a “drink the koolaid” comment since no one has seen as Rivian outside a very small number of prototypes.I would guess Rivian will have a significant quality advantage as well, based on all the interviews I have seen. I come from a design and manufacturing background, and everyone I have seen speak from Rivian is saying what great teams say, and I think this will filter down into a great product with great quality. Literally my only reservation is price.
Well certainly I don't have access to any information other people don't have, but having worked my entire career in product design and manufacturing in high tech industries, I have a feel for what good teams say and do and what other team say and do, and the Rivian teams are saying the right things and acting the right way, from everything I see.This is quite a “drink the koolaid” comment since no one has seen as Rivian outside a very small number of prototypes.
I’m pro-rivian (with deposit) but the Tesla has my attention
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