Tesla owner considering R1S

[RangeAnxiety]

Hello,
Model S Performance owner considering R1S. I have scanned many of the threads on here, very informative! Couple of specific range-related questions hoping people WITH 2025 DUAL MOTOR R1S can weigh in on:

Background / context: I have over 50k miles driving our Model S, so well aware of EV ownership and charging best practices and planning trips and highway usage etc. Zero interest in performance option or tri/quad. I have a Model S performance with ludicrous package and this being my wife's family vehicle moving dogs and kids, we never ever step on it. Slow/adequate is fine, we have other go-fast cars.

1. What's the realistic range I can expect from a dual large+ with road tires (either the aeros or the other option) I saw the Out of Spec review of the dual max coming in at 346, but it was done on a gen 1. Is gen 2 similar for 70 mph highway cycle or are folks observing more driveline efficiency?
2. 50% of our EV driving is driving 210 miles to our cabin in one go (charging at home).
3. 25% is towing a small trailer with a dirt bike (electric!) 160 miles round trip (charging at home).
4. 10% is a long road trip exactly 335 miles one way with one charging stop in between (supercharger).
5. Rest is around town (charging at home).

A Model X long range would fit the bill and be the known commodity, however R1S looks a bit more appealing than the boiled egg vibe in the X. Thank you!

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[Donald Stanfield]

I think the max pack dual will give you the range to hit all your boxes. That has a rated range of over 400 miles and in my experience Rivian’s range is a lot closer than Teslas Elon miles.

 

[RangeAnxiety]

I think the max pack dual will give you the range to hit all your boxes. That has a rated range of over 400 miles and in my experience Rivian’s range is a lot closer than Teslas Elon miles.

Out of spec review says otherwise, hence my question here from real world experience not rated epa miles. Lot of chatter about Max being just a large plus with lower buffer and $10k premium for 30 miles over large.

 

[Dhevey]

My 2024 R1S max is rated at 380 miles, and gets 380 miles. From prior experience, it is much more accurate than a Tesla.

 

[johnj2803]

I have a long range model y (still use it) and what typically is a one stop trip for us is no charging stop for the r1s (dual max).

 

[TSK]

We have a 2023 Tesla Model S (22,000 miles) that we love but typically get an average of 80% of the range of 405 miles.

We also have a 2023 R1T that we got new in June 2024, with Max Pack, and Performance Duals which we also love (even more than the Tesla). The Rivian is much closer to the rated range on 410 miles, often running 350-410 miles dependent on the conditions. We have a 27ft Airstream that we pull often, weighing in a 7200 lbs. while towing the range runs 150-210 miles, being very dependent on the conditions. Due to the battery size and efficiency charging time on the Rivian is 50-75 per cent more.

 

[PeterSK]

A Model X long range would fit the bill and be the known commodity, however R1S looks a bit more appealing than the boiled egg vibe in the X. Thank you!

I can’t comment on the specific range question, though I have found over 15 months of R1S ownership that the car’s range projections and EPA estimates tend to be more accurate than Tesla’s.

And as a 2013 Model S to 2016 Model X to 2023 R1S owner I can attest that the R1S can hold much more cargo than the X, and the third row seats are more comfortable and a lot less claustrophobic. Even the Model S can hold more cargo than the X if you have the 6 seat version or the original 7 seater with bucket seats that don’t fold flat.

 

[PaythePiper]

Range on the R1 is like any EV. Mountains? Range is killed. Cold? Range is killed. Drive over 75? Killed. You get the point.

I just drove 160 mile mountainous drive in AZ that took 270 miles of range if that gives you a good example. It was on the colder side as well

 

[mudito]

I'd dare to say any Rivian should do 220mi in one charge all year round. I did Dallas-Austin a few times already (202 miles) and at any speed I can get there with (AT LEAST!) 20% battery to spare.

I have Gen1 QuadMotor Large battery, and the new DualMotors Gen2 are much more efficient (of course).

But, if your budget allows, go for the Max! More is always better in this subject

 

[mkg3]

Hello,
Model S Performance owner considering R1S. I have scanned many of the threads on here, very informative! Couple of specific range-related questions hoping people WITH 2025 DUAL MOTOR R1S can weigh in on:

Background / context: I have over 50k miles driving our Model S, so well aware of EV ownership and charging best practices and planning trips and highway usage etc. Zero interest in performance option or tri/quad. I have a Model S performance with ludicrous package and this being my wife's family vehicle moving dogs and kids, we never ever step on it. Slow/adequate is fine, we have other go-fast cars.

1. What's the realistic range I can expect from a dual large+ with road tires (either the aeros or the other option) I saw the Out of Spec review of the dual max coming in at 346, but it was done on a gen 1. Is gen 2 similar for 70 mph highway cycle or are folks observing more driveline efficiency?
2. 50% of our EV driving is driving 210 miles to our cabin in one go (charging at home).
3. 25% is towing a small trailer with a dirt bike (electric!) 160 miles round trip (charging at home).
4. 10% is a long road trip exactly 335 miles one way with one charging stop in between (supercharger).
5. Rest is around town (charging at home).

A Model X long range would fit the bill and be the known commodity, however R1S looks a bit more appealing than the boiled egg vibe in the X. Thank you!

Since you're on Rivian forum, clearly will get a very Rivian favorable responses.

I own gen1 R1S with large pack (131 kWh useable). The range requirement you've listed, I believe, can be met with my gen1 R1S quad so if you're looking at gen2 dual large+, it would be better.

What I would say is to have your wife go drive one. It is a truck based body on frame, 7000 lbs vehicle. Unless your towing is much more than dirt bikes on a trailer, you need to ask your wife how well she'd like driving a truck-like vehicle.

There are plenty of people herein that would disagree with my take on the driving experience of Rivian. I have owned and driven many, many SUVs - both unitized body and body on frame. So the real question is, does your wife want the vehicle to drive like a car of truck. Our R1S is my wife's daily and she likes the truck like feel having driven Jeep as her first vehicle.

There are many options, including Lucid Gravity now available so go look all over and drive them before you decide.

Good luck.

 

[NC-Rivian]

Hello,
Model S Performance owner considering R1S. I have scanned many of the threads on here, very informative! Couple of specific range-related questions hoping people WITH 2025 DUAL MOTOR R1S can weigh in on:

Background / context: I have over 50k miles driving our Model S, so well aware of EV ownership and charging best practices and planning trips and highway usage etc. Zero interest in performance option or tri/quad. I have a Model S performance with ludicrous package and this being my wife's family vehicle moving dogs and kids, we never ever step on it. Slow/adequate is fine, we have other go-fast cars.

1. What's the realistic range I can expect from a dual large+ with road tires (either the aeros or the other option) I saw the Out of Spec review of the dual max coming in at 346, but it was done on a gen 1. Is gen 2 similar for 70 mph highway cycle or are folks observing more driveline efficiency?
2. 50% of our EV driving is driving 210 miles to our cabin in one go (charging at home).
3. 25% is towing a small trailer with a dirt bike (electric!) 160 miles round trip (charging at home).
4. 10% is a long road trip exactly 335 miles one way with one charging stop in between (supercharger).
5. Rest is around town (charging at home).

A Model X long range would fit the bill and be the known commodity, however R1S looks a bit more appealing than the boiled egg vibe in the X. Thank you!

Moved from a MYLR to the 2024 R1S large pack (and I also own a 2022 R1T). Tesla range estimates cannot be taken seriously and fall into the “mere suggestion” realm. Both Rivian range estimates are nearly spot on almost every single time. With the SC opened up, the Rivian is the winner hands down.

 

[Leeda]

I had a 2022 Model Y and put 65,000 miles on it, a great car until hurricane Debbie flooded it.
I thought I wanted a Model X and I took one for a test drive in Sarasota and then decided to drive to Tampa and test drive the R1S. That's all it took, for me there's no comparison. I purchased a 2025 dual motor large battery+. I run it about 300 miles before charging. Autopilot and some of the other tech features are not quite up to Tesla standards yet I've had several updates and it keeps improving. Ride quality is amazing and so is the build quality. I flew up to Chicago rented a car and drove down to the factory to pick up my vehicle and I was glad I did because there were some panel gaps that I wanted adjusted before I was ready to take delivery and they took care of it, great team there. Also when the hurricane hit us in North Carolina we were able to pull power off of the SUV for about 5 days to keep the food from spoiling. I think you'll be happy with it, I have no regrets on my purchase. If you want the 6 months free charging and $750 credit message me I'll be glad to share my referral code. Good luck.

 

[SwampNut]

I would absolutely buy the X over a Rivian. We have an R1T because we really need a truck, and traded a Tesla M3LR for it. You give up a LOT going from Tesla, and the ONLY reason we did is to get a truck. And the Cybertruck is an obvious joke, the Ford is garbage, and the Chevy is ... meh.

 

[RangeAnxiety]

Since you're on Rivian forum, clearly will get a very Rivian favorable responses.

I own gen1 R1S with large pack (131 kWh useable). The range requirement you've listed, I believe, can be met with my gen1 R1S quad so if you're looking at gen2 dual large+, it would be better.

What I would say is to have your wife go drive one. It is a truck based body on frame, 7000 lbs vehicle. Unless your towing is much more than dirt bikes on a trailer, you need to ask your wife how well she'd like driving a truck-like vehicle.

There are plenty of people herein that would disagree with my take on the driving experience of Rivian. I have owned and driven many, many SUVs - both unitized body and body on frame. So the real question is, does your wife want the vehicle to drive like a car of truck. Our R1S is my wife's daily and she likes the truck like feel having driven Jeep as her first vehicle.

There are many options, including Lucid Gravity now available so go look all over and drive them before you decide.

Good luck.

Ha, my wife daily'd a Ford raptor, then Ford F150 hybrid before the Model S. And also frequently drives my g wagon. She is used to truck driving.

However I on the other hand have gotten really fond of the Model S ride quality. The air suspension is sublime and at the end of a long week driving 200 miles, the Model S ride quality and new improved auto pilot is very very nice.

How is the ride quality in R1S- It has air suspension does it not? I understand it won't be as good as a sedan, but just how good/bad is it? And I take it the driving assists are a few generations behind. Tesla?

 

[RangeAnxiety]

I would absolutely buy the X over a Rivian. We have an R1T because we really need a truck, and traded a Tesla M3LR for it. You give up a LOT going from Tesla, and the ONLY reason we did is to get a truck. And the Cybertruck is an obvious joke, the Ford is garbage, and the Chevy is ... meh.

Can you elaborate? We have liked the Tesla ownership experience. Charging is a non issue when we need it and there are two service centers within 40 minutes of me. I recently had a rear end collision repair which was handled satisfactorily and the X has been around for a decade so it's a refined product.

Is that what you are referring to when you say what we give up going from Tesla to Rivian?

Also, is there a brick and mortar service station in the general DFW area?!?

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