STUPID QUESTION - How Do I Turn Off My Truck!!??

[Zoidz]

Good post overall, but this part isn't really right. Rivians burn a lot of energy when they're on even without climate control. If you keep it in camp mode without climate control you'll probably lose 10%+ per day, which is unbelievably high for just keeping screens on, similar to my entire house's total use on a nice day.

There was a post on Reddit last year (below) where a somewhat controlled test was run WITH HVAC HEATING. Oddly, I don't recall and can't find any tests of Camp Mode without HVAC. I presume nobody is too concerned. But just taking a guess, based on typical 1% to 1.5% phantom drain per day mostly sleeping, Camp Mode might triple that (no facts to back that up) so I'm thinking closer to 3% to 5% total per 24 hours for camp mode without HVAC.

Knowing at a technical level how LLMs work, I'm highly skeptical of using AI for hard facts/numeric data especially with a limited data set such as this, but FWIW here's what Google AI says: Rivian's Camp Mode can impact power consumption, with estimates suggesting a potentially 1 - 3% daily drain. This drain is primarily due to keeping certain systems powered on for features like leveling the vehicle, setting timers for outlets, and potentially running HVAC.

Reddit:
I wanted to get some hard data on how much energy the HVAC system uses with Camp Mode. I plan to do many of these tests and will summarize my findings later at some point but here's what I have so far.

Rivian R1S Quad Large Pack
In my garage, which is insulated
Ambient temp 55F
Target temp 72F (but interior stayed at 68?)
Interior started at 60F
All 3 rows of fans on to maximize circulation

Duration 13 hours
16.59% battery use (or 22.12 kWh)

That comes out to about 1.27%/hr or 1.7kW/hr.

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[Laserboy1054]

That comes out to about 1.27%/hr or 1.7kW/hr.

I just have to correct the redditor whom @Zoidz is quoting (not in any way a dig at @Zoidz personally): as soon as someone mentions kilowatts per hour, I roll my eyes. 22.12 kWh divided by 13 hours is an average rate of 1.7 kilowatts. It's already a rate--that hr in the denominator is out of place. Sorry for being pedantic. (I occasionally challenge my class to come up with a process that would properly be measured in kW/hr. It's possible, but a bit convoluted. E.g., the ramp-up of an elecrric generator that has just been started and is headed toward steady-state.)

Anyway, power consumption of 1.7 kW seems on the high side, but not insanely so: that is roughly what one can pull from a standard household outlet without triggering a breaker. Since most if it would be waste heat, that would be the heat produced by a toaster oven running at max. An R1T is a pretty big heat sink, so maybe I buy it, but it still seems high.

It's an easy enough experiment to run. I'll give it a shot and see what kind of numbers I get.

 

[bigsky]

The beauty of EVs or at least those that in my view are designed correctly without a stupid and worthless power button (or knobs and buttons).
Just get in, fob, phone, or card in hand, press brake pedal, vehicle comes alive. Likewise, nothing to do when leaving car. Just put it in Park and walk away; vehicle will power down; it never really shuts off, some "vitals" always run. Liberating!!

 

[BTOR]

Hey folks! Just took delivery of my R1T yesterday, and I can't figure out how to turn off the truck if I just want to sit in (or near!) it, but not have it using energy.

Thanks!
- Chris S.

LOL, but no such thing as a stupid question.

For what it’s worth, here is what I do. When running errands, if I’m going to be away from the vehicle for < 15 min. I put it in park and get out, leaving everything on. If 30 min. or. longer, I put in park then I turn off HVAC and radio.

When I park at home and I know I wont be using it for the next several hours or longer, I turn everything off, even the displays.

My vampire drain is ~ 0.5%/24 hrs, which IMO is very low. I’ve haven’t evaluated the drain leaving everything on and just getting out of the vehicle but my guess is it would be worse. I think turning the display off helps significantly. Displays are notorious for using a lot of energy especially if the brightness setting is high.

Hope this helps. And yes, you’re going to really enjoy your new truck!

 

[Greg Chick]

Hey folks! Just took delivery of my R1T yesterday, and I can't figure out how to turn off the truck if I just want to sit in (or near!) it, but not have it using energy.

Thanks!
- Chris S.

Not a stupid question, proof is, so many answers! My 2 cents is, does the power spent by the unsleeping giant come from the big battery, or the 12dc battery used for operation of the system? If the power "Wasted" all comes from the same big source the motors that drive the vehicle that is different than the small one(s) under the dash/frunk.

 

[Singletracker]

There was a post on Reddit last year (below) where a somewhat controlled test was run WITH HVAC HEATING. Oddly, I don't recall and can't find any tests of Camp Mode without HVAC. I presume nobody is too concerned. But just taking a guess, based on typical 1% to 1.5% phantom drain per day mostly sleeping, Camp Mode might triple that (no facts to back that up) so I'm thinking closer to 3% to 5% total per 24 hours for camp mode without HVAC.

I thought the whole purpose Camp Mode was to reduce energy loss. Now, there is talk that it may actually do just the opposite. What’s the deal? When I’m camping, I want the whole darn truck shut down as much as possible. In simple terms, how can one reduce phantom drain to the very, very minimum? Maybe Shipping Mode? Just sitting in my driveway, I’m losing about 2 kWh every 24 hours (about 1.5%). That equates to about 5 miles of lost range per 24 hours. BTW, I always shut off the HVAC when I leave the truck. Actually, I always figured it shut off automatically, but I’m not taking any chances. Maybe it does, maybe it doesn’t.

 

[RivianRiverRat]

old school thinking or Air Force thinking or 50' and 60' vehicles (high compression - small battery) thinking
but I was always taught to shut everything off when exiting the vehicle

 

[1civilengr]

As smart as everything is, it really seems like it would be very easy to program a true low-energy mode that the user could activate. Maybe the startup time would be excessive when coming out of such a deep sleep?

 

[DayTripping]

Hey folks! Just took delivery of my R1T yesterday, and I can't figure out how to turn off the truck if I just want to sit in (or near!) it, but not have it using energy.

Thanks!
- Chris S.

Chris - it's electric, just unplug it.

 

[iansriv]

I just walk away and let the car do its thing. I've delegated the optimal method to Rivian. I'm not knowledgeable enough to consider additional steps that Rivian did not.

I've gotten so used to this that I find myself walking away from my ICE cars without stopping the engine. Cheers.

 

[usulio]

I thought the whole purpose Camp Mode was to reduce energy loss. Now, there is talk that it may actually do just the opposite. What’s the deal? When I’m camping, I want the whole darn truck shut down as much as possible. In simple terms, how can one reduce phantom drain to the very, very minimum? Maybe Shipping Mode? Just sitting in my driveway, I’m losing about 2 kWh every 24 hours (about 1.5%). That equates to about 5 miles of lost range per 24 hours. BTW, I always shut off the HVAC when I leave the truck. Actually, I always figured it shut off automatically, but I’m not taking any chances. Maybe it does, maybe it doesn’t.

Camp mode has two opposite settings, everything stay on and everything stay off. The use case of everything stay on is to keep the hvac on all night (since there is no power button, there is no other way to turn the Rivian on and keep it on).

 

[Zoidz]

I thought the whole purpose Camp Mode was to reduce energy loss. Now, there is talk that it may actually do just the opposite. What’s the deal? When I’m camping, I want the whole darn truck shut down as much as possible. In simple terms, how can one reduce phantom drain to the very, very minimum? Maybe Shipping Mode? Just sitting in my driveway, I’m losing about 2 kWh every 24 hours (about 1.5%). That equates to about 5 miles of lost range per 24 hours. BTW, I always shut off the HVAC when I leave the truck. Actually, I always figured it shut off automatically, but I’m not taking any chances. Maybe it does, maybe it doesn’t.

Camp mode can reduce selective energy loss, but it's intended for economizing losses while still operating. It's not the highest saving mode by any measure, and it's not supposed to be. Normal sleep or Shipping mode saves the most.

 

[PrairieColonel]

Getting on the RIVIAN habit of just punching the button on the right hand stalk. I drove my wifes Forester to the grocery store, pushed the end of the right hand stalk and did my shopping. When I returned to where I left the Forester it was no longer where I had parked it. After scouring the parking lot I found the Forester wedged unter the back end of a dump truck. So now everytime I drive the Forester my wife remindes me to move the shift lever to park and turn it off. Not a problem with the R1S.

 

[1civilengr]

FINALLY FOUND IT! Under the Camp Modes, there is an option to put the truck to sleep (warns you that it will take more time to wake up and go). This is what I was looking for!
Thanks everyone for the input!!

 

[downranger12]

Stupid answer - you don’t! Even dumber, there’s no way to turn it on either. So if you have the doors open for a while because you're cleaning, camping, etc., the vehicle will randomly turn off on you after 10 minutes and the only way to turn it back on is to close and open a door. Music settings reset of course.

As you can tell, I'm not a fan, but there are gripes about any vehicle.

72k on m 2022 quad. Pretty sure mine goes to sleep at night while plugged in. It reboots and repairs itself?
Don't forget to plugged it in though.

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