Laurent

Well-Known Member
Joined
Dec 18, 2019
Threads
0
Messages
96
Reaction score
331
Location
CA
Vehicles
Model S
Feel like this video is just a PR stunt. I want rivian to be successful, but I will need more than a short video as proof they are moving forward
I feel the same way. I’m actually quite disappointed in RJ and how he’s handled the delays. I thought he was different, better than this. But I guess people change when billions of dollars are at stake…

 

Zoidz

Well-Known Member
First Name
Gil
Joined
Feb 28, 2021
Threads
34
Messages
835
Reaction score
1,993
Location
PA
First Name
Gil
Vehicles
Chevy Avalanche, BMWs-X3,330cic,K1200RS bike
Occupation
Engineer
Feel like this video is just a PR stunt. I want rivian to be successful, but I will need more than a short video as proof they are moving forward
This might come off sounding like a d**k question, but it's not intended that way.

For months the complaints here have been "Why isn't RJ talking more?" Now he does it and it's not good enough. What specifically do you need as proof of production beyond a video of actual trucks awaiting shipment? Would any other CEO of an auto company drive around and shoot a video of the shipping area with his kids in the back seat and post it? Would any other auto company give the public as much insight and access directly to the CEO as Rivian has to date? I have not read any accounts where CEOs of other auto companies took prospective customers on test drives or met with them in a focus group.

I guess they could produce a slick corporate style video instead of a personal with the kids video, but I suspect the comments would be "We want vehicles not slick impersonal videos".
 

Max

Well-Known Member
Joined
Aug 31, 2021
Threads
29
Messages
1,131
Reaction score
1,855
Location
Maryland
Vehicles
Nissan Truck

Zac

Well-Known Member
Joined
Jul 2, 2021
Threads
2
Messages
133
Reaction score
171
Location
San Diego, CA
Vehicles
Acura MDX
I am hoping those are all ready for delivery and are not being parked waiting for chips/parts, like what Ford and GM have been doing over the past year.
 

E.S.

Well-Known Member
Joined
Jul 8, 2021
Threads
4
Messages
804
Reaction score
1,019
Location
Florida
Vehicles
Chevy Bolt
Occupation
Retired
I feel the same way. I’m actually quite disappointed in RJ and how he’s handled the delays. I thought he was different, better than this. But I guess people change when billions of dollars are at stake…

Or is it that, despite the $$ that's come in, the company is still only 4 MONTHS IN PRODUCTION status. Not years, but months. Several of you have an unrealistic expectation from a company that is still this new in the game. This isn't Ford, GM, Chevy, hell, despite the extreme similarities, this isn't even Tesla which has been in production status for years (not months) now. If people cannot come to terms with this and be patient regarding that matter, you're investing your time into the wrong product.
 

SeaGeo

Well-Known Member
First Name
Brice
Joined
Jan 12, 2021
Threads
42
Messages
3,921
Reaction score
7,810
Location
Seattle
First Name
Brice
Vehicles
Xc60 T8
Occupation
Engineer
I am hoping those are all ready for delivery and are not being parked waiting for chips/parts, like what Ford and GM have been doing over the past year.
I suspect they are having shipping issues.
 

mgc0216

Well-Known Member
First Name
Mike
Joined
Oct 5, 2021
Threads
7
Messages
634
Reaction score
1,200
Location
Oregon
First Name
Mike
Vehicles
Subaru Crosstrek, BMW R1200RT, BMW F800GS
Occupation
Software guy
I feel the same way. I’m actually quite disappointed in RJ and how he’s handled the delays. I thought he was different, better than this. But I guess people change when billions of dollars are at stake…
How would you like RJ to handle the delays?
 

DeafPug

Well-Known Member
Joined
Oct 20, 2021
Threads
0
Messages
47
Reaction score
75
Location
Kansas
Vehicles
Model 3
Yep agree. There's no way to know what production level this represents. For all anyone here knows, this could have been vehicles waiting to be shipped from a week of producing 500 vehicles.

One comment was "Hoping to see another order of magnitude more vehicles on the next video like this". ?

That's exactly what we DON'T want to see! We want to see them shipping as quickly as they are produced. Seeing lots of vehicles in a video of the parking lot does nobody any good - Rivian, investors or customers.
As someone who waited over two years for a Tesla Model 3 and made the comment about a parking lot full of Rivians being a good sign, you are misinterpreting my statement. These is a minimum amount of time from when a vehicle comes off he line and can be shipped out to a customer. A full parking lot could be a sign of QA issues causing delivery delays, but is just as likely to be the sign of a higher production rate. You need to compare the vehicles in the parking lot on a daily basis to make that judgement call as to which is the truth.

When a parking lot full of Tesla Model 3 was found during the early stages of the Model 3 production ramp https://teslamotorsclub.com/tmc/thr...del-3s-in-a-tesla-lot-pictures-inside.104317/, there were some negative takes on it, but future Tesla owners were generally excited to see the ebb and flow of vehicles in this parking lot. There were close to 2,000 posts on this thread over a few years as various “spy shots” were posted To it.

I chuckle at how almost all the current comments on this forum are regurgitations of the comments on TMC during the wait for the Model 3 to start production and get ramped to a reasonable level.
 

AdamsFan1983

Well-Known Member
First Name
Silence Dogood
Joined
Jun 22, 2021
Threads
47
Messages
673
Reaction score
2,784
Location
Pennsylvania
First Name
Silence Dogood
Vehicles
Wrangler
Occupation
Public Relations
I suspect they are having shipping issues.
Maybe since the whole sector is messed up, but my guess is that shipping isn’t a major problem.

One of the bigger issues has been a shortage of container chassis’s. While they are likely seeing manpower issues in the trucking industry, I think it’s safe to assume they aren’t having issues finding equipment to move vehicles since so few autos are being produced/shipped right now.

Plus they have convenient rail access at the plant. Once they have the volume to justify shipping via train, I’m sure they wil opt to do so.
 

lostpacket

Well-Known Member
Joined
Dec 4, 2021
Threads
24
Messages
540
Reaction score
1,591
Location
Vermont
Vehicles
Crosstrek
Occupation
Software Engineer
I didn't see a single truck painted purple with pink polka dots.

I am beginning to grow concerned they may never offer this color.


1642418509991.png
 

cmiller

Well-Known Member
First Name
Chris
Joined
Dec 29, 2021
Threads
0
Messages
92
Reaction score
130
Location
CT
First Name
Chris
Vehicles
Ford Bronco
Occupation
Nurse
This might come off sounding like a d**k question, but it's not intended that way.

For months the complaints here have been "Why isn't RJ talking more?" Now he does it and it's not good enough. What specifically do you need as proof of production beyond a video of actual trucks awaiting shipment? Would any other CEO of an auto company drive around and shoot a video of the shipping area with his kids in the back seat and post it? Would any other auto company give the public as much insight and access directly to the CEO as Rivian has to date? I have not read any accounts where CEOs of other auto companies took prospective customers on test drives or met with them in a focus group.

I guess they could produce a slick corporate style video instead of a personal with the kids video, but I suspect the comments would be "We want vehicles not slick impersonal videos".
I wouldn't exactly count asking your kids what their favorite color is as any kind of relevant info when it comes to rivian. He threw some scraps out so that the fanboys would eat it up. It was a nice touch to involve his kids though so that he seems more relatable. Smart move. it's just not a rivian problem, but an auto industry as a whole that they fail to update and talk to their customer base. Right now the Silverado EV chief engineer is giving interviews to YouTubers. Lets see if that continues, but that is the stuff that keeps people interested in the vehicle. These car companies don't have to do much to convince their fanboys, but for the rest of us they do. Oh and I am not calling you a fanboy ?
 
Last edited:

Zoidz

Well-Known Member
First Name
Gil
Joined
Feb 28, 2021
Threads
34
Messages
835
Reaction score
1,993
Location
PA
First Name
Gil
Vehicles
Chevy Avalanche, BMWs-X3,330cic,K1200RS bike
Occupation
Engineer
These car companies don't have to do much to convince their fanboys, but for the rest of us they do. Oh and I am not calling you a fanboy ?
Not a fanboy, it also means nothing to me if somebody calls me one. I give a business credit where it's due, and I'll call them out when it's due. I choose to give Rivian credit for the difficult journey they are still on, and leeway since they are still working in startup/ramp up mode and will be for 3 to 6 more months. If they haven't ramped up and improved delivery communications 6 months from now I'll be calling them out. I've done engineering work and production support on many startups of new production lines, I know how it goes. And I get it that many people don't understand what it means to be in startup mode, and that they don't really care. They just "want it NOW". It doesn't happen overnight and it RARELY meets sales, marketing or customers expectations, even when right on the planned schedule.
 

Atlrivian

Well-Known Member
Joined
Apr 14, 2021
Threads
5
Messages
190
Reaction score
507
Location
Atlanta
Vehicles
Grand Cherokee, XC90
This is good news for those of you worried about getting to see all the colors in person so you can make an informed decision prior to purchasing a 80k vehicle. All you need to do to see them is get to Normal and sneak onto the lot!
 

 
Top