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I have not heard any 2025 production targets. Now the parts shortage is fixed they should be able to get to 60k+ for 2025.
Targets are typically announced during quarterly results, so hoping for a strong projection this time. They did an impressive job selling 14k+ units in Q4, and hope the momentum continues!
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Rivian needs to get better about the earnings call date. They announced production and deliveries today and 7 weeks later for the call/discussion.

Most companies, including automakers have about 4 weeks (announced at the beginning of the month and the earnings call within the following 3~4 weeks).

Gives too much time for speculations, momentum change and void, since the quite period starts couple of weeks prior to the earnings announcement.
Rivian isn't very good at communicating. They make excellent vehicles full of industry-defining technology. They do not realize the untapped potential of effective communication. Communications make every aspect of the business run better.
 

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Great news. I'm not sure how well the production/delivery targets are tied to profitability; does this mean Rivian is on track to achieving positive net income?
 

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Great news. I'm not sure how well the production/delivery targets are tied to profitability; does this mean Rivian is on track to achieving positive net income?
On track is fair to say. They would unlikely to meet their profitability goal for the 4th quarter without reaching their production and delivery guidelines.
 

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Haters are going to find a reason to find a negative twist.
Just yesterday got another "The stock is trash, company is bankrupt" troll reply on social media. They've been saying the exact same thing for two years. But Rivian keeps on selling vehicles and working to make them better. 😊👍
 

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A 20% pop on simply meeting expectations shows a deep pessimism in the markets regarding Rivian—like they didn’t believe the supply chain excuses. That makes sense, as the supply chain was a scapegoat for weak demand. I see a bunch of Rivian ads on YouTube and investors do as well. Hopefully this helps reestablish executive credibility with Wall Street.
They sold more vehicles this year than produced. Not just a scapegoat.
 

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Great news. I'm not sure how well the production/delivery targets are tied to profitability; does this mean Rivian is on track to achieving positive net income?
Not positive net income. That is a long ways away. The fourth quarter goal was breakeven/positive cash flow. No way they could make that without these numbers. Still isn't a guarantee they make it, but this goes a long way towards it since the incentives were not huge.
 

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Not positive net income. That is a long ways away. The fourth quarter goal was breakeven/positive cash flow. No way they could make that without these numbers. Still isn't a guarantee they make it, but this goes a long way towards it since the incentives were not huge.
I got in a hurry. What Rivian projected for the 4th quarter was positive gross margin not positive cash flow........
 

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I got in a hurry. What Rivian projected for the 4th quarter was positive gross margin not positive cash flow........
Correct, huge difference between those two.
 

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Oddly, Nikola Motors is also up 24% today and even Tesla and Lucid are up 8%. Now I think there must be a whale or whales buying the entirety of the zero emissions vehicle sector, with Rivian getting a boost due to not shitting the bed in the 4th quarter, and modestly improved outlook.
 

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Big Rivian fan here with an R2 reservation. I live near the space here and am concerned about lack of traffic lately. It looks closed on most days and you rarely see someone taking a test drive. I hope it’s just local conditions. Chicago charges 9.5% sales + 8% use taxes on leases, making them uneconomical.
 

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They just opened in Skokie. That surely affected Chicago. But I’m seeing a lot more Rivians in the north suburbs, including two families that are friends of my kids, in the last two months.
 

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