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The new GA plant will determine the success or failure of the Brand - if for no other reason than scale.

 

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Without an online reference to this, I am going to assume it's a random social media post making this claim, not an official post from the Observatory. I went to their Facebook page, they have been closed since COVID and have not posted anything since June 7, 2021.

If you are really concerned, you have an opportunity influence this. Your town may or may not have a "Dark Skies" requirement in the zoning/building code. You *could* investigate this, and advocate adopting such an ordinance. You *could* contact Rivian and ask them to use "Dark Skies" lighting fixtures. You *could* join the International Dark Skies Association and educate Rivian about the importance of Dark Skies, and with their Mission Statement, it's likely that they would use (or maybe already are planning to use) Dark Sky approved lighting.

You *could* do all these things to influence the outcome, I've provided links to the resources above, but will you?
NB the pdf in the original post says lighting will follow dark sky principles etc etc.
 

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Ann - I empathize with your emotions and passion but as you can tell by the responses here, you’ll struggle with swaying popular opinion given your current approach.

Humble suggestion is to adjust your thinking and approach: work with Rivian to maintain the important qualities of your community as much as possible while supporting the coming change. You’ve gotten some wonderful advice in this thread from forum members on the initial process of implementing a project like this and can use their extensive knowledge in all aspects of the process to educate and support yourself and your counterparts.

How are your schools? Do you have any multi-use parks? Most people would take a school(s) and general city services funded by a Rivian expansion in lieu of personal tax dollars any day. Work with Rivian to address the watershed issues. Got ideas on zoning for the housing and businesses needed to support this facility’s employees? What about zero carbon, sustainability and energy conservation practices that your community could be at the forefront of in implementing? Barriers around the campus don’t have to be fences, they can be berms. Check out Nike’s gigantic campus…or don’t because you can’t even see it from some vantages. Shift to facilitate the process and advancement instead of emotionally fighting it. Otherwise you’ll get exhausted and will “lose” when this is truly an opportunity where there can be a “win win” for both your community and Rivian. Your life won’t be the same with the “plant” but that doesn’t mean it won’t be better…with your positive influence and input. This project can give back to you and community in ways that you could only imagine and you can be highly influential in facilitating…if you and your neighbors approach it smartly. Have kids? What do you want for their future? Have you thought about requesting a local internship program from Rivian (both manufacturing and administrative track). All examples of how you can influence how you look at the sky tomorrow instead of only focusing on how you look at it today.

Someday your community *will* change. If you fight this and win today, you may still lose further down the line in the lack of jobs, smart growth and advancement for the future of your community. With a different approach, you could “farm” Rivian to be the good food your community and environment could use to thrive.
 

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Ann - I empathize with your emotions and passion but as you can tell by the responses here, you’ll struggle with swaying popular opinion given your current approach.

Humble suggestion is to adjust your thinking and approach: work with Rivian to maintain the important qualities of your community as much as possible while supporting the coming change. You’ve gotten some wonderful advice in this thread from forum members on the initial process of implementing a project like this and can use their extensive knowledge in all aspects of the process to educate and support yourself and your counterparts.

How are your schools? Do you have any multi-use parks? Most people would take a school(s) and general city services funded by a Rivian expansion in lieu of personal tax dollars any day. Work with Rivian to address the watershed issues. Got ideas on zoning for the housing and businesses needed to support this facility’s employees? What about zero carbon, sustainability and energy conservation practices that your community could be at the forefront of in implementing? Barriers around the campus don’t have to be fences, they can be berms. Check out Nike’s gigantic campus…or don’t because you can’t even see it from some vantages. Shift to facilitate the process and advancement instead of emotionally fighting it. Otherwise you’ll get exhausted and will “lose” when this is truly an opportunity where there can be a “win win” for both your community and Rivian. Your life won’t be the same with the “plant” but that doesn’t mean it won’t be better…with your positive influence and input. This project can give back to you and community in ways that you could only imagine and you can be highly influential in facilitating…if you and your neighbors approach it smartly. Have kids? What do you want for their future? Have you thought about requesting a local internship program from Rivian (both manufacturing and administrative track). All examples of how you can influence how you look at the sky tomorrow instead of only focusing on how you look at it today.

Someday your community *will* change. If you fight this and win today, you may still lose further down the line in the lack of jobs, smart growth and advancement for the future of your community. With a different approach, you could “farm” Rivian to be the good food your community and environment could use to thrive.
Count how many Walmart super centres and other large warehouses are in the affected counties. It’s not zero!
 

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It is marked in the pdf.

As far as hurricanes go, ATL is pretty far inland. The main issue would be flooding from extensive rainfall if a storm stalls over the area, like Harvey did to Houston.

SE side has water retention zones, hopefully they will design enough to account for that.
 

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The problem isn’t the runoff or the retention the problem is this is one of the top 3 ground water recharge areas in the state. Rivian is moving in on Insentives. The development authority will be leasing this property to them. I honestly don’t know if rivian is even aware of what the development authority is trying to pull here. If it back fires it will make rivian look bad and I don’t think they even realize the ground they are going to be building over.
 

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Ann - I empathize with your emotions and passion but as you can tell by the responses here, you’ll struggle with swaying popular opinion given your current approach.

Humble suggestion is to adjust your thinking and approach: work with Rivian to maintain the important qualities of your community as much as possible while supporting the coming change. You’ve gotten some wonderful advice in this thread from forum members on the initial process of implementing a project like this and can use their extensive knowledge in all aspects of the process to educate and support yourself and your counterparts.

How are your schools? Do you have any multi-use parks? Most people would take a school(s) and general city services funded by a Rivian expansion in lieu of personal tax dollars any day. Work with Rivian to address the watershed issues. Got ideas on zoning for the housing and businesses needed to support this facility’s employees? What about zero carbon, sustainability and energy conservation practices that your community could be at the forefront of in implementing? Barriers around the campus don’t have to be fences, they can be berms. Check out Nike’s gigantic campus…or don’t because you can’t even see it from some vantages. Shift to facilitate the process and advancement instead of emotionally fighting it. Otherwise you’ll get exhausted and will “lose” when this is truly an opportunity where there can be a “win win” for both your community and Rivian. Your life won’t be the same with the “plant” but that doesn’t mean it won’t be better…with your positive influence and input. This project can give back to you and community in ways that you could only imagine and you can be highly influential in facilitating…if you and your neighbors approach it smartly. Have kids? What do you want for their future? Have you thought about requesting a local internship program from Rivian (both manufacturing and administrative track). All examples of how you can influence how you look at the sky tomorrow instead of only focusing on how you look at it today.

Someday your community *will* change. If you fight this and win today, you may still lose further down the line in the lack of jobs, smart growth and advancement for the future of your community. With a different approach, you could “farm” Rivian to be the good food your community and environment could use to thrive.
@go west_. Rivian isn’t the major issue here. The development authority sold the people in the community a BS bill of goods. No one new anything about this project until december except the members of the development authority. They manipulated people into agreeing to sell land by threatening them with state govt recourse. The community doesn’t have enough population to fill the workforce needs now. 7500 more available jobs isn’t gonna do them any favors. Rivian is getting tons of incentives to move here. They aren’t even going to own the land. The development authority will own the land and is leasing it to rivian. The chairman of the joint development stepped down last summer after the deal with Rivian was finalized because he owns majority of the land being sold to the jda. There is so much info coming out about the shady deals for this land it’s sick. They don’t even have enough water capacity for the facilities and they are having to get it from 2 counties over. The land it’s being built on is top 3 in the state for ground water recharge. Over half the property is in state conservation but the state is involved in financing the deal for the development authority so they are wiping that slate clean. I honestly don’t think Rivian would be moving here if they knew 1/2 of what has gone on with this land and the govt. on top of that, with all the dot projects that will need to happen the locals will be footing the bill because Rivian got a 20 yr insentive to not pay any taxes. It’s a shit show honestly. Don’t expect that plant to open on time.
 

 
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