Reminder: Rivian Promised Level 3 "Eyes Off the Road" Autonomy on Gen 1

[KW_88_SS]

. I don't think we're going to get a magical trade in to a new vehicle.

Hire an attorney, start a lawsuit, and you might be surprised to see what happens. I'm going through it currently, DM me if you want. My situation is a tad different though.

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[RWerksman]

^ at least Rivian is still in business.. you could have bought a Fisker, then you would have no one to sue

Fisker shouldn't be a benchmark for anything except for design language and ability to light cash on fire.

Rivian is just keeping it's head above water as is, expending lots of cash on devs and hardware upgrades on Gen 1 vehicles could put a huge burden on them with no upside (as far as added income is concerned).

Well, they shouldn't have promised it then, should they?

There is no doubt that it has value and it was used in the marketing material for the sales of Gen 1 vehicles. Like it or not, this is a liability for Rivian, and it needs to be addressed.

That said, we may learn that 'addressing it' is the powers-that-be inside of Rivian just hoping legal action isn't taken, and if it is, that the monetary and and reputational hit is preferential to the costs of actually addressing it to everyone's satisfaction.

 

[Riviot]

.... I propose that Rivian form an active partnership with Comma with the specific purpose of working to deliver on the promises made to G1 customers.

So close!

 

[risingphoenix]

So close!

You must be lost because you don't understand what's being proposed.

 

[pamalabama]

Rivian can win using the simple defense that tesla has used.

if you aren't taking your car into a service center, then the performance of said feature is not defective

 

[KW_88_SS]

Rivian can win using the simple defense that tesla has used.

if you aren't taking your car into a service center, then the performance of said feature is not defective

Correction to my previous post, Tesla lost some individual law suits and there are a litany of class action suits in the works it seems.

 

[Riviot]

You must be lost because you don't understand what's being proposed.

I understand.

I disagree.

 

[JM.]

Rivian can win using the simple defense that tesla has used.

if you aren't taking your car into a service center, then the performance of said feature is not defective

And what if you are taking it in?

 

[pamalabama]

Correction to my previous post, Tesla lost some individual law suits and there are a litany of class action suits in the works it seems.

Small claims court suits, tesla seems to be winning now

In terms of class action this is a tricky problem. Tesla actually delivered with the FSD product more than was advertised. What people paid for is more than what tesla delivered.

The only thing is in 2018 for a very small amount of time, they sold a product which promised effectively level 5 autonomy. The amount of people who purchased that product and still have their car/not upgraded to HW4 is probably very low at this point.

 

[pamalabama]

And what if you are taking it in?

nobody does that

 

[captainjp]

Small claims court suits, tesla seems to be winning now

In terms of class action this is a tricky problem. Tesla actually delivered with the FSD product more than was advertised. What people paid for is more than what tesla delivered.

The only thing is in 2018 for a very small amount of time, they sold a product which promised effectively level 5 autonomy. The amount of people who purchased that product and still have their car/not upgraded to HW4 is probably very low at this point.

50% drop in market value is not winning. Id say Tesla is losing very badly right now. It’s gonna be hard to shake that stink off.

 

[JM.]

nobody does that

I have. Now what?

 

[SANZC02]

Have no clue if this was driver error or FSD but clearly that is a Tesla that drove into the top of a flipped semi on I95 south in New Haven CT last night. Someone/thing clearly could not see the wall in front of them.

 

[Gurule92]

Have no clue if this was driver error or FSD but clearly that is a Tesla that drove into the top of a flipped semi on I95 south in New Haven CT last night. Someone/thing clearly could not see the wall in front of them.

Or maybe this? lol

 

[Mellowyellow]

Have no clue if this was driver error or FSD but clearly that is a Tesla that drove into the top of a flipped semi on I95 south in New Haven CT last night. Someone/thing clearly could not see the wall in front of them.

The best part is when they back out the Tesla it leaves a perfect silhouette outline of the car, just like in the cartoons!

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