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I'm updating some of my recovery gear given how heavy the truck is.

What's the recommended kinetic recovery rope thickness for the Rivian? 7/8" or 1"?
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Brand quality can make a difference and bigger is usually better if you can afford it. Try and stick with a reputable brand. It’s hard to do though sometimes because with winch brands, for example, you pay more for that big red W on the front. That said, I’d trust a 7/8” Bubba Rope over a cheaper 1” no-name brand on Amazon.

The amount of time you use the rope is also important. As an emergency backup once a year type of thing, having anything is better than nothing. But if you’re planning on getting out more often, I’d stick with quality and cry once.

Also know the difference between a tow rope and a kinetic recovery rope. They are not meant to be interchangeable and there’s a reason for the price difference.
 

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This might help: https://www.tacticalrecoveryequipment.com/size-kinetic-recovery-rope/

Recommendation is to select a breaking strength at least 3x the weight of the heaviest vehicle you might recover.
Breaking strength might vary from manufacturer to manufacturer so the specified rated strength might be a better parameter to use than diameter.
Please let us know what you go with.
 

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Here's what TreatyOak Kinetic Rope recommends for their ropes:

We recommend using your GVWR (Gross Vehicle Weight Rating) x4 to find the appropriate rope, if you fit between sizes, round up.

3/4" - Tensile Strenght - 19,000 lbs

7/8" - Tensile Strength 28,330 lbs

1-1/16" - Tensile Strength 39,000 lbs


I need to double-check what mine is rated at since I bought it years ago for my Tacoma. I did pull an ambulance out of a ditch with it once so I might be ok... ?

EDIT: Double checked and mine is the 20' 7/8" rope rated at 28,330lbs. Ideally I would need a 1" or 1-1/16" rope but I think I'll stick with what I have for now.

The R1Ts GVWR is 8532 (x4 = 34,128). I'm a bit under what I "need" but time will tell.
 
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I've used a 7/8" ASR rope for years now and their quality is top notch. Also, how you secure the rope/strap to the vehicle is equally important! Get good soft and hard shackles!

Never trust any equipment that doesn't come will a WLL, proof load rating and yield strength rating, and inspect before use.
 

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As a millwright I seen many rigging mishaps.
don’t go undersize. Use the proper size needed. I beg you.
Don’t be that guy just… don’t…..

Maybe a little pricey now. But better than a hole in the head or costing a bystander a limb, or damage to either vehicle.
 

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As a millwright I seen many rigging mishaps.
don’t go undersize. Use the proper size needed. I beg you.
Don’t be that guy just… don’t…..

Maybe a little pricey now. But better than a hole in the head or costing a bystander a limb, or damage to either vehicle.
Just a side note, the work you guys do is BA. Had the fortune of having good millwrights on some of the auto plant changeovers I worked on, and it made things much less stressful. What you all learn through apprenticeship is as rigorous and disciplined as any top-notch engineering program.
 

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Just a side note, the work you guys do is BA. Had the fortune of having good millwrights on some of the auto plant changeovers I worked on, and it made things much less stressful. What you all learn through apprenticeship is as rigorous and disciplined as any top-notch engineering program.
Oh no…. You’re an engineer?! We curse you guys all the time. ??

just Kidding somewhat….

engineers is tough job. Having to be accountable for something you design. That’s a lot of pressure.

one of our helpers is going to school for engineering. He says it’s pretty tough.

our only gripe with the engineers is when they don’t take maintenance into account of the design and we gotta cut and remove a bunch of stuff that is in the way of something we need to get to. Only to have to put it back after lol.

I’m sure you weren’t one of those guys tho lol. And thank you for the kind words!
 

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Resurrecting this thread, sorry peeps.

I am looking at the Factor 55 kinetic rope options. I own the Riv Recovery kit. It has a tow strap.

The GVWR of my T is 8532. Most sites I have researched state a minimum of 4x the GVWR for the Minimum breaking strength. I rather be above the min.

Should I go with the 1” x 30’, mbs 33.5k or the 1.5” x 30’, mbs 74k. The 1.5” seems like overkill and the elasticity of it would not be of use. I am inclined to go with the 1”. Is that my best option?
 

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Keep in mind that GVWR is the weight fully loaded - passengers plus gear, you will likely be less than that. You would be fine with the 1". With that said, I went with 1.5" for the extra capacity for unknown situations.
 

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Keep in mind that GVWR is the weight fully loaded - passengers plus gear, you will likely be less than that. You would be fine with the 1". With that said, I went with 1.5" for the extra capacity for unknown situations.
I purchased the Extreme Duty Kinetic Energy Rope 1.5" X 30'. Hopefully I will never need it. Thx
 

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I purchased the Extreme Duty Kinetic Energy Rope 1.5" X 30'. Hopefully I will never need it. Thx
Doesn't make sense to me to oversize a kinetic rope. In terms of effectiveness, the stretch won't be there. In terms of safety, get a rated rope from a reputable seller and use within spec. Don't go double full send. Finally, if I'm pulling anyone else, they're probably not heavier than the Rivian.
 

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After chatting with an F55 rep, I ordered the 7/8” x 30’ and returned the 1.5” x 30’.

I agree, so much thickness and length would require far more force, power to make the use of the ropes elasticity.

I am learning about this, so gracias peeps!
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