Received wrong battery pack in my R1T - Large Pack (instead of standard)

[MidnightRivian]

Hello,

As a Rivian shareholder I would like to speak on behalf of the entire shareholder community.

We kindly request you to immediately purchase $9,100 worth of $RIVN shares to compensate for the battery upgrade that was given to you at no cost.

Thanks for your prompt attention in resolving this matter.

Sincerely,

Upside down Shareholder

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[dcfurbflrm]

Hello,

As a Rivian shareholder I would like to speak on behalf of the entire shareholder community.

We kindly request you to immediately purchase $9,100 worth of $RIVN shares to compensate for the battery upgrade that was given to you at no cost.

Thanks for your prompt attention in resolving this matter.

Sincerely,

Upside down Shareholder

Oh am an upside down share holder already.. for wayyy more than that

 

[Billyt1963]

Oh am an upside down share holder already.. for wayyy more than that

So are you saying this is just getting some of your investment back?

 

[Chrisy]

So are you saying this is just getting some of your investment back?

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[CharonPDX]

Tesla has been software locking batteries for years and it wouldn't be exceptional for Rivian to do the same. It would cost them money to engineer a lower-capacity NCA battery pack and that makes less sense if they're eventually going to switch over to LFP as some predict.

Tesla still makes a profit on the software-locked smaller packs, and did everything in their power to discourage people from buying them in the first place. Rivian doesn’t make a profit on the Large pack at full large pack price - why would they sell it cheaper locked, and make the smaller pack *desirable*?

 

[CharonPDX]

I suspect they started pushing out software limited large and max packs to get off inventory that had built up. They'll eventually shift to a real standard pack later this year in theory .

Okay, * that* makes some sense. You’d think they’d wait longer.

 

[vandy1981]

Tesla still makes a profit on the software-locked smaller packs, and did everything in their power to discourage people from buying them in the first place. Rivian doesn’t make a profit on the Large pack at full large pack price - why would they sell it cheaper locked, and make the smaller pack *desirable*?

Why spend the money and time on R&D if they're just going to replace it with LFP in 9 months? It doesn't matter if the cost of the battery minerals is lower if those savings are offset by development costs.

In the meantime they need volume and selling a lower-priced battery pack is one way to do it. Most people are not going to know that they're more desirable (i.e. top charging with less degredation and theoretically lower throttling while charging at high soc), anyway, much as it is with Tesla amd their software limited packs.

 

[CharonPDX]

Why spend the money and time on R&D if they're just going to replace it with LFP in 9 months? It doesn't matter if the cost of the battery minerals is lower if those savings are offset by development costs.

Because it’s the same pack with two fewer modules. Why go through the effort of the Max/Standard+ which is a completely different battery cells/chemistry, instead of just changing number of modules as was obviously the original plan? (Max was obviously supposed to be a couple extra modules in the extra space of the truck’s longer wheelbase, since max wasn’t originally supposed to be available on the SUV.

 

[SeaGeo]

Because it’s the same pack with two fewer modules. Why go through the effort of the Max/Standard+ which is a completely different battery cells/chemistry, instead of just changing number of modules as was obviously the original plan? (Max was obviously supposed to be a couple extra modules in the extra space of the truck’s longer wheelbase, since max wasn’t originally supposed to be available on the SUV.

Wheb you gotta sell all of something before a certain date, sometimes you discount them.

 

[vandy1981]

Because it’s the same pack with two fewer modules. Why go through the effort of the Max/Standard+ which is a completely different battery cells/chemistry, instead of just changing number of modules as was obviously the original plan? (Max was obviously supposed to be a couple extra modules in the extra space of the truck’s longer wheelbase, since max wasn’t originally supposed to be available on the SUV.

There are development costs associated with changing the configuration of the battery pack. That's one of the reasons we ended up with the Max Pack that we have today, for example.

 

[windblowlc]

Wheb you gotta sell all of something before a certain date, sometimes you discount them.

Why go through the trouble to software lock the large. Inventory would move even more if it's not software limited and discounted.

 

[Dark-Fx]

Because it’s the same pack with two fewer modules. Why go through the effort of the Max/Standard+ which is a completely different battery cells/chemistry, instead of just changing number of modules as was obviously the original plan? (Max was obviously supposed to be a couple extra modules in the extra space of the truck’s longer wheelbase, since max wasn’t originally supposed to be available on the SUV.

Voltage is lower if you do that. Lots of consequences in the control system and testing involved. I'm going to agree that the engineering testing would probably cost Rivian more in the long run for this short period. This is really a way for Rivian to discount their vehicles to sell more of them while still potentially reducing their long term warranty concerns on degredation.

 

[Riviot]

Why go through the trouble to software lock the large. Inventory would move even more if it's not software limited and discounted.

And lose potential future profits by offering to unlock these batteries?

 

[windblowlc]

And lose potential future profits by offering to unlock these batteries?

Roll the dice? There's nothing to unlock

 

[Riviot]

Roll the dice? There's nothing to unlock

You're saying they would move more if they just didn't software lock the battery and instead just discount the price.

Speculation is they software locked the battery and discounted the price.

I'm saying if they did indeed software lock it, they now have the opportunity to unlock it if people pay money.

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