Rants and Raves after 2 months of Rivian R1T ownership [DISCLAIMER: Unauthorized feedback from non-owner]

[crashmtb]

Not only that but it's also accessible (and Accessible, as in ADA) to your front seat passenger.

Passenger…touching..radio controls?!

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[time]

There's a noticeable lag in some physical controls:

• unlocking/locking can randomly take up to 10 seconds to unlock (with the fob)
  • rolling up and down the windows has a strange lag to it (always)
  • pedestrian warning system can sometimes take a few moments to turn on once moving

 

[the long way downunder]

This thread is a time warp back to the launch of each new Tesla (except the comments about build quality … : )

 

[astonius]

with AA/CP you still have maps and nav which is the biggest use for them.

Maps and nav aren’t even what I use CarPlay for most of the time. Even still, Rivian’s maps don’t provide everything you can get from apps like Waze or ABRP. My preferred music, podcasts, and meetings apps, as well as better phone and message integration are used way more frequently and don’t have equals on Rivian’s system. Dismissing CarPlay as nav and maps is naive.

This is why you should read the relevant threads. You’ll learn in detail why people feel strongly about these features rather than straw-manning their argument.

 

[_evtrk]

Maps and nav aren’t even what I use CarPlay for most of the time. Even still, Rivian’s maps don’t provide everything you can get from apps like Waze or ABRP. My preferred music, podcasts, and meetings apps, as well as better phone and message integration are used way more frequently and don’t have equals on Rivian’s system. Dismissing CarPlay as nav and maps is naive.

This is why you should read the relevant threads. You’ll learn in detail why people feel strongly about these features rather than straw-manning their argument.

I'm a little familiar with some of the uses of these apps, I'm also very familiar with the data of what they are mostly used for as well as with the purpose behind the apps existence. I have consulted numerous times for some of the manufacturers of automotive Operating Systems. I do appreciate your recommendation though.

 

[Gearhead500]

Next person that mentions AA/CP, cup holders, or radio knobs is getting pistol whipped.

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[Gearhead500]

If we can keep it on thread here, I just hope the Reddit poster didn’t get a lemon.

Thanks to @Iwantatesla for your continued updates and get better.

 

[HTownB]

Maps and nav aren’t even what I use CarPlay for most of the time. Even still, Rivian’s maps don’t provide everything you can get from apps like Waze or ABRP. My preferred music, podcasts, and meetings apps, as well as better phone and message integration are used way more frequently and don’t have equals on Rivian’s system. Dismissing CarPlay as nav and maps is naive.

This is why you should read the relevant threads. You’ll learn in detail why people feel strongly about these features rather than straw-manning their argument.

Why don’t more companies just use CarPlay and dump their own systems that are redundant? I’m not sure what exactly the licensing cost is but surely it’s cheaper than building your own. Even if it isn’t then make it an option and pass on the cost to the customers who want it?

 

[astonius]

Why don’t more companies just use CarPlay and dump their own systems that are redundant? I’m not sure what exactly the licensing cost is but surely it’s cheaper than building your own. Even if it isn’t then make it an option and pass on the cost to the customers who want it?

Careful, @Gearhead500’s gonna get you

 

[fallen888]

And this is why I'm glad the company is using their employees as beta test monkeys.

 

[AdamsFan1983]

Why don’t more companies just use CarPlay and dump their own systems that are redundant? I’m not sure what exactly the licensing cost is but surely it’s cheaper than building your own. Even if it isn’t then make it an option and pass on the cost to the customers who want it?

If Rivian just wanted to license other peoples’ innovation, they wouldn’t be in business: that’s why.

 

[_evtrk]

Why don’t more companies just use CarPlay and dump their own systems that are redundant? I’m not sure what exactly the licensing cost is but surely it’s cheaper than building your own. Even if it isn’t then make it an option and pass on the cost to the customers who want it?

Short answer, It all comes down to data, psychology, and recurring fees. The only fee CP/AA have are associated with the implementation and debugging the manufacturers need to do to make sure either doesn't cause issues with the OS the vehicle and the UI are running on.

 

[SeaGeo]

Why don’t more companies just use CarPlay and dump their own systems that are redundant? I’m not sure what exactly the licensing cost is but surely it’s cheaper than building your own. Even if it isn’t then make it an option and pass on the cost to the customers who want it?

Data. and I suspect trying to control the experience. Why has Apple always been so focused on locking people into their ecosystem? Remember when they didn't even let you use a different browser on the iPhone?

And until v recently integration of the EV systems with navigation for route planning. VW's nav is a total shit show, but it at least plans you're route out taking into consideration your live battery status.

 

[_evtrk]

Data. and I suspect trying to control the experience. Why has Apple always been so focused on locking people into their ecosystem? Remember when they didn't even let you use a different browser on the iPhone?

And until v recently integration of the EV systems with navigation for route planning. VW's nav is a total shit show, but it at least plans you're route out taking into consideration your live battery status.

Yup, even though manufacturers can limit some of the data that goes to CP/AA , they rather keep it all in house. And the user experience is the psychology part. I was consulting a few years back when AA was coming online, there were 4 psychologist on the panel of 10 people, they really don't want people associating anything of the vehicle with Google or apple. They always want the vehicle brand to be what think of. They want to lock in brand loyalty and the $500,000 the average person spends in a lifetime on vehicles.

 

[Ralph]

Why don’t more companies just use CarPlay and dump their own systems that are redundant? I’m not sure what exactly the licensing cost is but surely it’s cheaper than building your own. Even if it isn’t then make it an option and pass on the cost to the customers who want it?

Lots of reasons as stated by other, but knowing that Apple is even considering entering the auto market is reason enough to avoid their tech. If computing is at the center of a high tech vehicle, building that tech stack on top of even a potential competitors product is "less than invocative" and possibly suicidal for the company.

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