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I didn't see a camera mirror in the R2, but it works pretty decently on my Fisker.
How well does it work at night? I’ve seen/heard problems with the implementation on the EV9 and the CyberDumpster.
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if i were an R1S owner and i didnt need the 3rd row i would be kicking myself right about now.
Why? You should make a decision based on what is available when you are ready to buy. Looking over your shoulder and saying “woulda shoulda coulda” is self defeating, nothing more.
 

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Here are my updated pricing predictions after the event:

Base Price: $45,000

Motor & Battery
Standard Pack RWD: $45,000 270-mile range 0-60 under 6 seconds
Large Pack RWD: $49,900 350-mile range. 0-60 under 5 seconds
Large Pack Dual Motor: $53,900 330-mile range 0-60 under 4 seconds
Large Pack Tri-Motor:: $58,900 310-mile range. 0-60 under 3 seconds

Paint
Standard: included (Silver)
Premium: +$1,250.00 (White, Limestone, Forest Green)
Premium Metallic: +$2,000.00 (Red Canyon, Midnight, Rivian Blue, El Cap Granite)

Wheels
19" Standard: included
21" Sport: $2,000.00
21" Sport Dark: $2,750.00
20" All-Terrain: $2,750.00
20" All-Terrain Dark: $3,500.00

Interior
Black Mountain: included
Ocean Coast / New Colors: $1,500.00

So given these prices, you could get a decent config under $60k such as:
Large Pack Dual Motor: $53,900
Limestone Color: $1,250
21" Sport Wheels: $2,000
Ocean Coast: $1,500
Total: $58,900

Approx range: 330 miles + under 4 second 0-60
 

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How well does it work at night? I’ve seen/heard problems with the implementation on the EV9 and the CyberDumpster.
In general it's pretty good at night. When it really struggles is if the sun is behind the car. Luckily with the seats folded down, the actual mirror is still pretty effective, and I can always roll down the window if the glass isn't clean either.
 

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I agree, most R2 owners will not tow anything significant. But I do hope the R2 has a 2" receiver tow hitch option. Most modern e-bikes sold today are 50 to 80 lbs. each and are too heavy to lift up onto a roof rack. Even tow hitch racks need a long ramp. The "bike mount" option listed in leaked specs worries me. That would be very unlikely to work with our two 63 lbs. e-bikes. Even the bike rack manufacturers had trouble designing new bike racks for modern e-bikes, and did not get it right until about a year ago.
I watched the unveiling of the R2 yesterday with great anticipation because I would really like to move on from my Tesla. I hope there is an actual tow hitch because as an owner of an electric bike and the E Destination Hollywood Rack NOT having a tow hitch for that would be a deal breaker. I could not find any specifications on the Rivian website about a hitch, only a picture of their bike rack connected through some kind of slots in the back of the vehicle.
 

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I watched the unveiling of the R2 yesterday with great anticipation because I would really like to move on from my Tesla. I hope there is an actual tow hitch because as an owner of an electric bike and the E Destination Hollywood Rack NOT having a tow hitch for that would be a deal breaker. I could not find any specifications on the Rivian website about a hitch, only a picture of their bike rack connected through some kind of slots in the back of the vehicle.
I think you are right on in regards to the 2.5M purchasers of e-bikes over the past 3 years in the US. There was a podcast by the "Same Brain" YouTube channel just posted that provides a post-reveal interview with RJ, In that podcast, RJ implies the R2 will have towing. Hopefully thinking, I would have to think that includes a 2" tow hitch.
 

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I hope there is an actual tow hitch because as an owner of an electric bike and the E Destination Hollywood Rack NOT having a tow hitch for that would be a deal breaker.
I can't see them overlooking the hitch on an adventure vehicle.
 

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Yikes, feel bad for the team that pushed that live without realizing it could be found.

Also a bit deflating to have the lead details leaked in advance of the reveal. Some interesting tidbits though - saw someone mention earlier today that the rear window may be able to be lowered. NACS makes sense as well given that this is a couple of years out yet.

Hopefully there’s some small details yet to be revealed. Pulling for a few unique color options for R2 vs. R1 as well.
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I would pay 10-20k more for an R2 with 400 miles of range. I know that isn't even in the plan, but one can dream.
 

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I would pay 10-20k more for an R2 with 400 miles of range. I know that isn't even in the plan, but one can dream.
Doesn’t really make sense, that’s going to be a really niche use case. That’s driving for more than 5.5 hours straight without a break, and lugging around a LOT of extra battery weight when you’re not on a road trip. The sweet spot will be 300 miles with faster charging.
 

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Doesn’t really make sense, that’s going to be a really niche use case. That’s driving for more than 5.5 hours straight without a break, and lugging around a LOT of extra battery weight when you’re not on a road trip. The sweet spot will be 300 miles with faster charging.
I NEED a long distance BEV. I HATE public charging, and even though the SCs are opening up, that isn't going to solve the problem.

A long distance BEV means I can avoid public charging even more. I am not referring to the 5.5 hour drive use case. I am referring to more typical use cases such as:
1. Those who cannot charge at home. They can drive for more days in a row before needing to look for a DCFC station. That will make those people more likely to get one, and they do, put less burden on the DCFC network.
2. People like me who regularly drive long distances. My office is 143 miles from my house. I cannot make it there and back without charging. And it sucks. It would relieve so much stress and pain if I could drive there, spend the couple days I spend there driving around, and drive home without needing to worry about fighting with the EVSE hogs or stopping to DCFC. I can charge at home, and I ONLY want to charge at home if at all possible.
3. Road trips that make it more likely you only have to rely on destination charging, instead of "on the way" charging. That will make long trips much less stressful, and much easier. And if I have a longer range BEV, I can choose where I stop rather than being forced to stop in a Walmart parking lot and eating lunch by buying the crap they have at their deli counter.

Long range BEVs are much more important than more DCFC stations. In fact, long range BEVs will mean we don't need to build as many DCFC stations, and it will mean maybe, maybe my wife will agree to get one to replace her ICEV.

We can agree to disagree.
 

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I would pay 10-20k more for an R2 with 400 miles of range. I know that isn't even in the plan, but one can dream.
I think I'd just be happy with a semi-guarantee that I could slot in a new battery in 4-5 years when the range increases. That's the nice thing about the overseas EVs where they're focused on battery swapping tech. It means it's already geared towards replacement.
 

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I NEED a long distance BEV. I HATE public charging, and even though the SCs are opening up, that isn't going to solve the problem.

A long distance BEV means I can avoid public charging even more. I am not referring to the 5.5 hour drive use case. I am referring to more typical use cases such as:
1. Those who cannot charge at home. They can drive for more days in a row before needing to look for a DCFC station. That will make those people more likely to get one, and they do, put less burden on the DCFC network.
2. People like me who regularly drive long distances. My office is 143 miles from my house. I cannot make it there and back without charging. And it sucks. It would relieve so much stress and pain if I could drive there, spend the couple days I spend there driving around, and drive home without needing to worry about fighting with the EVSE hogs or stopping to DCFC. I can charge at home, and I ONLY want to charge at home if at all possible.
3. Road trips that make it more likely you only have to rely on destination charging, instead of "on the way" charging. That will make long trips much less stressful, and much easier. And if I have a longer range BEV, I can choose where I stop rather than being forced to stop in a Walmart parking lot and eating lunch by buying the crap they have at their deli counter.

Long range BEVs are much more important than more DCFC stations. In fact, long range BEVs will mean we don't need to build as many DCFC stations, and it will mean maybe, maybe my wife will agree to get one to replace her ICEV.

We can agree to disagree.
Then why don’t we all drive ICE vehicles with 500+ mile range gas tanks? Because it’s not really efficient to do so and gas stations are everywhere. It’s also not efficient to lug around all of that battery ALL THE TIME. The Silverado EV has a big 200+ KwH pack to get 400+ miles of range, but it’s also the least efficient EV truck out there.

Big batteries mean more weight. And they’re more expensive. The solution would be to enable batteries to charge faster to reduce the wait time. When chargers are as ubiquitous and as fast to refill as a trip to the gas station, nobody would be complaining.
 

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Then why don’t we all drive ICE vehicles with 500+ mile range gas tanks? Because it’s not really efficient to do so and gas stations are everywhere. It’s also not efficient to lug around all of that battery ALL THE TIME. The Silverado EV has a big 200+ KwH pack to get 400+ miles of range, but it’s also the least efficient EV truck out there.

Big batteries mean more weight. And they’re more expensive. The solution would be to enable batteries to charge faster to reduce the wait time. When chargers are as ubiquitous and as fast to refill as a trip to the gas station, nobody would be complaining.
I know, we don't agree. That is OK.

But just to explain a little more - all refueling stops are inconvenient. Unless you can refuel without any extra effort, which may come with inductive charging, it will always be something unproductive and inconvenient. Yes, 5-10 minutes of inconvenience is better than 30, but that doesn't change the fact that we refuel because we have not, not because we want to.

I want my refueling stops to be as few as possible, and as convenient as possible. If I am forced to stop every 200 miles, it will be VERY inconvenient. If I can refuel when it coincides with another planned stop, then the inconvenience factor is reduced substantially. Longer range cars improve flexibility and reduce the inconvenience of a refueling stop.

My wife's Jeep GC-L can easily go 500 miles on the highway between refueling stops. We drove it down to the OBX last week, drove it all round there to various restaurants, and home. We never had to stop once to refuel. In fact, it still has a quarter of a tank of gas remaining. I have taken my Mach-e and I am forced to charge while there. I have a 240V outlet at the house so that makes it easier, but it is still a hassle. A hassle my wife has no desire to deal with.

Personally I hate refueling. The inconvenience to me is very annoying, so I am willing to pay more for a longer range vehicle. I will pay for big ass battery, and you can pick the model with the smallest battery, and we both will be happy.
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