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I would expect the larger battery and larger frontal area would give the Hummer much better towing range than Rivian.

Has anyone with both down a towing range comparison?
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That kind of puts the possibility of getting a Hummer lower on my list. The 800V charging and the roof would be nice, but I find the Rivian nav to be more than adequate, and the apps on the Rivian are fine. The more suited for off-roading means less suited for street riding as an inverse. It might be nice to have more of a contrast between my car and my wife's. I never go off the beaten path, though, so I don't really need the capability.

Too many choices.
I totally agree with you, there are different use cases. I just went off roading in Sedona, with my Rivian, because I had an issue with my front locker on the Hummer, it is at the dealership. A few jeep drivers commented on my tires, LOL.

Another thing I will say, is that it was easy for me to schedule service quickly with the GMC dealer. When I got my Rivian, it had 2 recalls and a frunk not closing issue, took 7 weeks to get an appointment and 12 days at the service center.
 

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I would expect the larger battery and larger frontal area would give the Hummer much better towing range than Rivian.

Has anyone with both down a towing range comparison?
There was a test online, between R1T, Lightning and Hummer, all pulling the same trailer. R1T and Lightning got 110 miles, Hummer got 140. I have done a towing test in the Rivian with my boat and am going to repeat it with the Hummer. My R1T got 115 miles, with my 5k lb boat.
 

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Iā€˜ve had my R1T right at 9 months and have put 9,300 miles on it. Overall Iā€™ve been very quite happy with it. My use case involves about 45% of my ā€œfuelā€ coming from a 14 panel solar array at my farm. So after 9,300 miles, my ā€electrical billā€ on my house has increased by about $375 total for these miles. (Iā€™ve not done any charging away from home/farm.)

Today I decided to test drive a Hummer EV since a local dealership had 4 or 5 in stock. I drove the old Gen1 Hummer (diesels) when I was in the Army Infantry and it goes without saying that the new Hummer being a EV is quite quite quite different.

Items I noticed:
  • Dash had a lot of plastic parts
  • The car pumps in artificial engine noise to make it sound V8 like. (I found this very weird)
  • It drove ā€œsmallerā€ than the footprint of the vehicle, which is good in my eyes
  • Certain headscratching items, like the frunk didnā€™t have any sort of hood lining to it. Just exposed painted hood. For $120k, Iā€™d think there should be a lining of something.
  • It had windnoise when going down the interstate. I think this is because there were two cube sized off road lights attached hear the A-pillars. I think that was the source of the wind noise.
  • The power tonneau cover was darn cool
  • Supports CarPlay (sorry - couldnā€™t resist)
  • Has super cruise self driving (I didnā€™t get the chance to test to see how it compares to Rivianā€™s self-driving, which I use all the time)

One item I canā€™t get past is the size of the battery. Given how large the battery is, my level 2 charger at home would have to be plugged in for 14-16 hours to fully top off the battery, vs 6-8 hours to accomplish similar in my R1T. Range is slightly better in the Hummer, but like 320 vs 280 Miles. The ā€œeconomicsā€ of the increased charge time just makes it pretty impractical in my eyes.

The Hummer was ā€œniceā€, but the cost of me getting into this situation just doesnā€™t make economical sense. R1T is quieter, I love the gear tunnel and underseat rear storage. I realize they arenā€™t direct competitors with each other, but they are both EV pickups, so the comparison was a path I went down.
Appreciate the post. Am seriously considering making the change from Rivian to Hummer. Not because I don't love my Rivian, but that Hummer, is just a best and I've loved it since the second I saw it. Have adjusted my other cars to now make it possible. The Rivain has been my daily driver, but got a plug-in hybrid with 41 miles in EV range to cover my daily driving needs and will be my car for long distance trips as I can no longer afford to stop at chargers. So, now the Rivian becomes just my personal recreation vehicle. Would have remotely considered the Hummer as a daily driver, but now that I have another viable daily driver, I could make it work. Haven't made any final decisions. If I could, I'd keep both, but that doesn't make sense for me. Again, absolutely love the Rivian and it's a great daily driver / recreation vehicle. But, now want to separate the two and I just love the "in your face" attitude of the Hummer. It's a strong possibility.
 
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Question to group: if I were to consider even doing this, what is the trade-in market for EVs look like? My R1T has 9,400 miles on it. Would I even be expecting $70k for a trade-in?
NN or NP? quad? p>= .90 you get less than 70k
 
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Following and would love to see a picture of your 69 Ford Cobra! @KubotaTed I had the same question and in your answer I have all the bells and whistles as well.
I would too, but I don't have a 69 Ford Cobra. I do have a 67 Ford Mustang convertible however and can share that pick. The 812 is my pride and joy "fun car" though.

Edit - I see that you were asking two talking two different people (Count has a '69 COBRA)
 

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I would too, but I don't have a 69 Ford Cobra. I do have a 67 Ford Mustang convertible however and can share that pick. The 812 is my pride and joy "fun car" though. -OR - perhaps you were talking two different people (Count has a '69 COBRA perhaps)
I was actually asking that to Count Orlock but would also love to see your 67 Ford Mustang as well!
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