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Concerning genuine Rivian key-fobs:
  1. Can a fob be programmed to work with either an R1T or an R1S? (Or are they model-specific?)

  2. Will a fob work with both a Gen 1 and a Gen 2 vehicle? (Or are they generation-specific?)

  3. Concerning the key-fob in the photos, is there any way to judge the age/generation/model?

    Rivian R1T R1S Questions About Key Fobs 1
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  4. Finally, I know that Rivian key-fobs are not currently being supplied with new 2025 vehicles, and are supposed to be available as paid accessories sometime in 2025. I assume (but do not know) that the new fobs may be re-designed (and perhaps be incompatible with earlier vehicles)? Anyone heard any rumors or facts about this?
Thanks for any information.
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Concerning genuine Rivian key-fobs:
  1. Can a fob be programmed to work with either an R1T or an R1S? (Or are they model-specific?)

  2. Will a fob work with both a Gen 1 and a Gen 2 vehicle? (Or are they generation-specific?)

  3. Concerning the key-fob in the photos, is there any way to judge the age/generation/model?

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  4. Finally, I know that Rivian key-fobs are not currently being supplied with new 2025 vehicles, and are supposed to be available as paid accessories sometime in 2025. I assume (but do not know) that the new fobs may be re-designed (and perhaps be incompatible with earlier vehicles)? Anyone heard any rumors or facts about this?
Thanks for any information.
#1 - Key Fobs are model specific. T is for T, S is for S.

#2 - Gen 1 Key Fobs (all fobs in the wild currently) can only be used on Gen 1 vehicles. You CANNOT program a Gen 1 Fob to work on a Gen 2 Vehicle. The technology is different.

#3 - The key fob in the photo is for a 2024 Model Year R1S. That is when they started using the white outlines on the fob. There may be a few LATE build 2023 with these, but they would be some of the last 2023’s to roll off the line.

# 4 - There are currently no fobs available for Gen 2 vehicles. If they end up producing them, that’s anyone’s guess at this point. Same with if it will look different.
 

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#1 - Key Fobs are model specific. T is for T, S is for S.

#2 - Gen 1 Key Fobs (all fobs in the wild currently) can only be used on Gen 1 vehicles. You CANNOT program a Gen 1 Fob to work on a Gen 2 Vehicle. The technology is different.

#3 - The key fob in the photo is for a 2024 Model Year R1S. That is when they started using the white outlines on the fob. There may be a few LATE build 2023 with these, but they would be some of the last 2023’s to roll off the line.

# 4 - There are currently no fobs available for Gen 2 vehicles. If they end up producing them, that’s anyone’s guess at this point. Same with if it will look different.
We are going through the process of getting a gen 2 as our gen was was totaled. I chatted with Rivian support and they told me the fobs and keys from Gen1 will work with Gen 2.

Danny
 

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We are going through the process of getting a gen 2 as our gen was was totaled. I chatted with Rivian support and they told me the fobs and keys from Gen1 will work with Gen 2.

Danny
I had mobile tech here Wednesday and he called someone at HQ about it and they said no. 🤷‍♂️

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We are going through the process of getting a gen 2 as our gen was was totaled. I chatted with Rivian support and they told me the fobs and keys from Gen1 will work with Gen 2.

Danny
They've also said the opposite many times. Theoretically they should work, as it just uses Bluetooth LE, but Rivian would need to officially support it.
 

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I had mobile tech here Wednesday and he called someone at HQ about it and they said no. 🤷‍♂️

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We are going through the process of getting a gen 2 as our gen was was totaled. I chatted with Rivian support and they told me the fobs and keys from Gen1 will work with Gen 2.

Danny
Like any business, don’t expect every single employee to know their stuff. Gen 2 uses UWB Bluetooth that is more secure and consumes less energy. Gen 1 uses regular Bluetooth. The fob is incompatible.
 

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Gen 2 uses UWB Bluetooth that is more secure and consumes less energy. Gen 1 uses regular Bluetooth. The fob is incompatible.
This isn't completely accurate. Gen 2 does, in fact, use UWB (this isn't Bluetooth, by the way). And it is also correct that Gen 1 uses Bluetooth. But Gen 2 also uses Bluetooth, as evidenced by the fact that an older phone that lacks UWB can still be used as PaaK.

This FOB is likely compatible if Rivian really wanted it to be.
 
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#1 - Key Fobs are model specific. T is for T, S is for S.

#2 - Gen 1 Key Fobs (all fobs in the wild currently) can only be used on Gen 1 vehicles. You CANNOT program a Gen 1 Fob to work on a Gen 2 Vehicle. The technology is different.

#3 - The key fob in the photo is for a 2024 Model Year R1S. That is when they started using the white outlines on the fob. There may be a few LATE build 2023 with these, but they would be some of the last 2023’s to roll off the line.

# 4 - There are currently no fobs available for Gen 2 vehicles. If they end up producing them, that’s anyone’s guess at this point. Same with if it will look different.
New Questions (to any and all):
  1. Can an otherwise good used (Gen 1, R1S) fob (with fresh battery) from one (G1, R1S) car be successfully reprogrammed/re-paired in order to work with a second (G1, R1S) car?
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  2. If so, can the driver do it (using on-board software) or does it have to be performed by Rivian (mobile or service center) techs?
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  3. If not, why do I see people (supposedly legitimately) selling used fobs?
Thanks!
 

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New Questions (to any and all):
  1. Can an otherwise good used (Gen 1, R1S) fob (with fresh battery) from one (G1, R1S) car be successfully reprogrammed/re-paired in order to work with a second (G1, R1S) car?
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  2. If so, can the driver do it (using on-board software) or does it have to be performed by Rivian (mobile or service center) techs?
    |
  3. If not, why do I see people (supposedly legitimately) selling used fobs?
Thanks!
A Gen 1 R1S fob CAN be reprogrammed for another Gen 1 R1S.

You can call into Rivian Service and ask for it to be programmed and they will submit a ticket to the team that handles this and they will do it for you. No SC appt needed. It takes a few days.
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