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My overall takeaway is optimistic, though the very low 30K range of R1 sales stands out as a concern. This seems to be less about tariffs and more about market demand—understandably so, given the $80–$115K price point.

That said, I was encouraged to hear the reiteration that R2 production is on track to begin in early 2026, with a starting price of $45K. Taken together, it could sound like a $45K model might launch on day one. If that turns out to be true, it's a potential home run. Does anyone buy-in to a $45K R2 from the get-go?
They need to get the R2 out into the public’s hands. Everything else in terms of R1 sales it to get them to that point .
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They're simply running out of buyers who can afford a vehicle in the average price range of $85,000 or so.

The R2 is obviously 1000% required for growth. Tesla Model S & X sell so few that they could discontinue both and barely anyone would notice. Too expensive.
That would be a shame because the S is the only one that doesn't look like crap.
 

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They need to get the R2 out into the public’s hands. Everything else in terms of R1 sales it to get them to that point .
The R1 taught them to make vehicles. The R2 is for mass market sale volume. The R1 will continue to be refreshed because it hits a bit different buyer.
 

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They're simply running out of buyers who can afford a vehicle in the average price range of $85,000 or so.

The R2 is obviously 1000% required for growth. Tesla Model S & X sell so few that they could discontinue both and barely anyone would notice. Too expensive.
^ Correct on both.
 

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You know what else keeps people's attention? A functional suspension on the dual motor that's not skittish on highways jumping all over the place, better steering tuning and better efficiency. The Gen 2 "improvements", and I say this as a Gen 2 owner, are complete hogwash. The only real improvement is camera resolution.
I'm with you here. I think for the R1 series, they need to find way to LOWER the MSRP ... get rid of the air suspension and some of crap we don't need. $100k EV buyers are few and far between and have plenty of other options.

The most compelling reason I got my R1T LE was because it cost me $75k all in. Gone are the days of $7500 incentives.

My guess on R2 price. $60k to start. They'll go with top end models first, then try to find ways to lower the price.
 

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My overall takeaway is optimistic, though the very low 30K range of R1 sales stands out as a concern. This seems to be less about tariffs and more about market demand—understandably so, given the $80–$115K price point.

That said, I was encouraged to hear the reiteration that R2 production is on track to begin in early 2026, with a starting price of $45K. Taken together, it could sound like a $45K model might launch on day one. If that turns out to be true, it's a potential home run. Does anyone buy-in to a $45K R2 from the get-go?
IMHO - It will depend on the pre-orders from reservation holders
They have polled some with different configurations and prices a while back
Don't know if that marketing gave them any insight to formulate production runs
Would like/hope to get a dual motor with 300-350 mile range but just have to wait and see
 

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RIVN will be sideways until R2/R3 brings them into serious growth mode....but there's so many question marks around a potential recession. They have survived some crazy shit so far....I optimistic they will make it but again, powerful headwinds are present.
 

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Looks like Dune, but without clear coat applied yet?
no idea
seems like it would be the final color since they dip/spray the bare body first
could be primer and then they wrap them in topo or pixel camo - but don't see the need or benefit of this since the design has already been shown to the world
or it's already got the factory matt wrap
or ..........
 

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At this point Rivian is trying to be a competitor to Rover in numbers as a new car company.
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