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Powered tonneau replacement prediction (it’s not positive)

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Stuff the power tonneau .... what about the manual cover? How difficult can that be?
Extremely fair point. It is inexplicable that they don't have a working prototype that they could demonstrate at this point.

What this tells me is:
  1. They've stress tested a prototype manual cover and are unhappy with the results and are now redesigning the manual cover, quietly or;
  2. They have a working cover but not enough suppliers and are trying to build up a stock or;
  3. They have no idea what they are doing
#3 is hopefully not the correct answer.
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That’s interesting. My SC told me that they couldn’t do that (disable the controls) and that I have to be careful not to accidentally hit the button.
Pics for reference. No controls present in infotainment. Button on bed does nothing.


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I disagree with a lot of your thesis but in general just want to comment on the charging network.

On the scale how much resources is it really? Look at the network, Rivian does a lot of business along the west coast, and the network is already looking healthy on these corridors. Coming in March it will be a source of revenue, we shall see how they price it. My prediction is they build out the first wave (400-500 connectors or whatever). Then use the network, which covers some unique corridors to get funding to from uncle sam to help build out phase 2 and in return open their network.
I agree on this. Thinking a lot about this and have come to the conclusion that, in the US at least, the closed private DCFC network is the only one right now with a decent (as I’m not completely half-baked) business model. It exists to support the product and the customer is the person buying the charging service rather than an OEM or government investor. This can change over time. Our expectations have to be high and we have to advocate for good DCFC as a community, but we will get there.

plus, Rivian is getting close to achieving some “critical mass” in places like the west coast and Colorado, wherein you will be able to do a lot of adventuring primarily on the RAN. I suspect these are their biggest markets and also tourist destinations from people who are out of state.

EDIT: sorry, this is detailing the thread :/
 

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Extremely fair point. It is inexplicable that they don't have a working prototype that they could demonstrate at this point.

What this tells me is:
  1. They've stress tested a prototype manual cover and are unhappy with the results and are now redesigning the manual cover, quietly or;
  2. They have a working cover but not enough suppliers and are trying to build up a stock or;
  3. They have no idea what they are doing
#3 is hopefully not the correct answer.
My god people... from Rivian on Reddit: "we’re still putting together the visuals and demonstration and will make sure they get shared out to the community as soon as possible"
 

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I really hope the manual cover turns into a camp table, that would be rad.
 

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I personally find these kinds of posts to be pretty surprising from early adopters. You've invested all this money in a product that more or less requires Rivian to stay in business in order for it to continue working properly, but are shocked and unsatisfied when they are forced to make concessions in attempt to stay in business. I get it, you're promised to get one thing for your money, but then, do you really want it if it means the company is more likely to go under?...
If Rivian will go under because of the cost of a properly engineered and functional powered tonneau cover replacement then they have no financial depth to remain in business.
 

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As someone pointed out months ago, it's a shame that there are 3 or 4" of dead space where the retracted tonneau would have gone in some of ours that were built for the original powered tonneau. I didn't think I'd care, but that's just silly that the space is wasted.
 

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I really hope the manual cover turns into a camp table, that would be rad.
I believe this was strictly a rumor that one of the car review blogs started and has been corrected by CS/Rivian a while ago that it will not function as a table.
 

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As someone pointed out months ago, it's a shame that there are 3 or 4" of dead space where the retracted tonneau would have gone in some of ours that were built for the original powered tonneau. I didn't think I'd care, but that's just silly that the space is wasted.
If I could use that space to store the manual cover, I'd be so much more inclined to have a manual cover.

Part of the reason I've delayed my Nov '21 order until the power tonneau is available is because 1. that feature is important for my use case and 2. the space where the power cover retracts is completely wasted otherwise.
 

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If I could use that space to store the manual cover, I'd be so much more inclined to have a manual cover.

Part of the reason I've delayed my Nov '21 order until the power tonneau is available is because 1. that feature is important for my use case and 2. the space where the power cover retracts is completely wasted otherwise.
I'm also waiting. I check the shop often to see if I can snag a launch green, but otherwise, I will be waiting for the PTC.

They better release that before the CT comes out otherwise I'll have a much harder decision to make.
 

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If I could use that space to store the manual cover, I'd be so much more inclined to have a manual cover.
Extremely unlikely that will be possible. The manual cover is 4 pieces, so they'll be too wide to fit in that space. You can store them in the gear tunnel, but then you reduce what else you can put there.
 

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If helpful - update from my guide when I pressed on getting clear comms on the Powered Tonneau re-introduction, given the website says early 2023 fix.

It seems who haven't taken delivery and want to hold out will continue to have no ETA :(

'So the clarification here is that what you are seeing on the website is the estimated timeline for the "fix" for those owners who already took delivery of vehicles with the faulty powered tonneaus and are having issues with it. That is different than what your scenario is which is asking when the redesigned powered tonneau will be available which no date has been announced yet and we have no idea of what type of timeframe we are looking at it as they are redesigning the product.'
 

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rivian disabled my power tonneau at pickup day. so i can’t even try to use it until it breaks. what’s my recourse? sue to have it turned on?
Rivian do the same with mine, however, cited that it was broken upon delivery. Do you know how they disabled it? I can still push the button here the motors turn on, but nothing moves.
 

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My god people... from Rivian on Reddit: "we’re still putting together the visuals and demonstration and will make sure they get shared out to the community as soon as possible"
Why in the world do we have to depend on communication via Reddit for this kind of info?
 

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They have 10,000 trucks to retrofit, and a lesson to learn. It'll be a while before new trucks have it.
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