New shoes! Nokian Outpost Tires on Rivian 22" wheels

[R1Thor]

We've had our 20's for almost 30k and can still see the 60% marker. I think they'll go longer. Very happy with these through the winter. Considered another set of snows, but decided we didn't need them after the first real snow. I mean you want to slide a little, no?!

Similar experience. I have about 15,000 miles on mine and still see the 80% marker. I estimate I'll get almost 60,000 miles out of these (probably swap them out closer to the 50,000 mile mark).
I love my nATs so much, that while I acknowledge there might be even better options out there, I will probably stick with the nATs

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[mkhuffman]

#4 range. I do go long distances so range is important. I am ok with a 3 to 5 percent hit but I am hopeful actually since the are the same size as the OEMs that the weight would be the impactful variable here. Leading to in my ‘I have been awake since 2:30 am so probably missing key aspects of a real theory that holds water’ reason that it could potentially be less of an impact.

Since you didn't replace the rims, the only significant factor that will impact your range is rolling resistance. Weight has a very minor impact, and in steady state driving like you do on the highway, basically no impact. Weight increases acceleration resistance but some of that can be recovered with regeneration. Rolling resistance impacts efficiency at all speeds.

Rolling resistance is a result of tread design and rubber compound. Generally a tread design that has deep groves (like it appears this one does) will have higher rolling resistance. But it might not depending on the rubber compound. A tire with low rolling resistance almost always has poor wet and snow traction when compared with a higher rolling resistance tire.

My guess is you will see a 5-10% efficiency hit. But that is totally a guess using the assumption the Pirelli street tire has lower rolling resistance.

 

[TollKeeper]

Where are you buying these at. I checked my 3 local stores, and no one carries them in this size, cant even order them..

 

[Snowdog]

Where are you buying these at. I checked my 3 local stores, and no one carries them in this size, cant even order them..

I tried local. I wanted local. They tried for a week to find them. I found them on Walmart.com ( not an endorsement).
I still had my local do the install.

Since you didn't replace the rims, the only significant factor that will impact your range is rolling resistance. Weight has a very minor impact, and in steady state driving like you do on the highway, basically no impact. Weight increases acceleration resistance but some of that can be recovered with regeneration. Rolling resistance impacts efficiency at all speeds.

Rolling resistance is a result of tread design and rubber compound. Generally a tread design that has deep groves (like it appears this one does) will have higher rolling resistance. But it might not depending on the rubber compound. A tire with low rolling resistance almost always has poor wet and snow traction when compared with a higher rolling resistance tire.

My guess is you will see a 5-10% efficiency hit. But that is totally a guess using the assumption the Pirelli street tire has lower rolling resistance.

Thanks. Appreciation for real science after some sleep is good.

 

[TollKeeper]

I tried local. I wanted local. They tried for a week to find them. I found them on Walmart.com ( not an endorsement).
I still had my local do the install.

I even tried Wal-Mart... No bueno..

 

[richpike]

I had to order mine (in 20”) off amazon. Had my local discount tire install them and they damaged one of my wheels. But that’s an entire other story…

-Rich

 

[Spork8]

I even tried Wal-Mart... No bueno..

Simple Tire.

 

[Snowdog]

I even tried Wal-Mart... No bueno..

https://www.walmart.com/ip/Nokian-O...-50R22-116H-XL-SUV-Crossover-Tire/15231361557

 

[AT0007]

What pressure do you run them at?

 

[TollKeeper]

I even tried Wal-Mart... No bueno..

They werent available yesterday, and today they are...

And they also offer the Nokian One HT in the 116 XL...

 

[abirozy]

do these come in a 20"

 

[Snowdog]

Running right now at 50. I think they are super smooth ride. I saw somewhere someone was running them at 60. I’m not sure I’d go there but a bit firmer would be possible. I’m in experimental mode.

 

[Snowdog]

I believe so. On the 20 size. Yes.

 

[Red Shirt Wookie]

do these come in a 20"

Yep, ours are on 20's

 

[richpike]

Running right now at 50. I think they are super smooth ride. I saw somewhere someone was running them at 60. I’m not sure I’d go there but a bit firmer would be possible. I’m in experimental mode.

It very much depends on the load rating and max tire pressure. The 20s I put on are 126 load rating and 80psi max (cold) pressure. I run them at 58ish cold and they ride beautifully and pass the chalk test well. I think the 22” are 116 rated. Similar to OEM, so I’d expect 48psi cold just like OEM.

-Rich

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