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I’m curious for all the Gen1 > Gen2rs

what are your observations on the highway assist and drive display visualizations?

I had a Gen1 loaner for a couple days and felt that highway assist and driver display shows and detected lanes better in the Gen1 over my Gen2?

The Gen1 would more accurately detect the lanes as dashed vs solid, and detect more lanes and cars better.

when I brought this up with my SC, they just said we can’t compare Gen1 to Gen2 because they are two completely different systems…
Don't use it at all - like adaptive cruise, but don't (yet) like the other highway assist parts. Still not clear on the use case for the car to move me a lane?

Visualizations on the screen seem more/more active and probably more accurate - but I've only really noticed sitting in traffic.

We were told at pickup that the new cams have given the systems more ability / more distance viewing and should be much better
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Gen2 R1T Tri motor upgraded form Gen1 QM. Floor mats of Gen2 ascend are trash for sure. 400 miles on my new truck and they look dirty. Gen1 QM 22400 miles. Ocean coast interior. Mats looked like factory new.
I have 2K miles on mine, and my mats look brand new. They are cloth, so if your shoes are dirty, you will ruin them. That's what they make the all-weather mats for.
 
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I have 2K miles on mine, and my mats look brand new. They are cloth, so if your shoes are dirty, you will ruin them. That's what they make the all-weather mats for.
Aren't the mats identical to Gen 1, albeit a different pattern?
 

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I have not seen this issue (of derating so low it won't work) - we threw it on the charger night before our trip, set it for 100% and it charged up overnight to 100%.

On our trip, we've been regularly recharging to 85% w/ 48A home charger (pretty stormy weather - wanted plenty of charge to get out of the mountains if power outages etc)
My suspicion right now is that this may be battery temperature related. Was it >45f where you were charging and not seeing de-rating?

As it’s snowing here in St. Louis today I’m going to do a couple of back-to-back tests between our gen1 large pack and gen2 max pack:

1) charging performance between the two packs going from ~90% SoC to ~95% with a cold battery. (Would not normally like to have the R1’s sitting at such a high SoC, but as we are expecting power outages and extreme weather over the next few days it’s good peace of mind)

2) look at the relative performance and characteristics of scheduled climate when raising the cabin temp from ~32f to 75f. I’m particularly interested of the gen2 pulls power from the charger or not.
 

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Aren't the mats identical to Gen 1, albeit a different pattern?
Gen one mats were made by chilewich, and were very very different to the new mats, especially those in the acend interior which are almost low pile shag rug like. Theres no way the new mats will stand up to any use by people who actually go outdoors - I’m debating buying an aftermarket set of chilewhich mats for our gen2 or just going for the Rivian branded all weather mats again (which are great btw).
 

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Aren't the mats identical to Gen 1, albeit a different pattern?
No. I'm not sure what the Ascend mats are made of, but they resemble a wool carpet that you would find in a luxury car. They put those mats in the vehicles of people who don't get dirty feet too often.
 
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No. I'm not sure what the Ascend mats are made of, but they resemble a wool carpet that you would find in a luxury car. They put those mats in the vehicles of people who don't get dirty feet too often.
sorry: Yes, the ascend seem a nicer quality. I meant - Gen2 mats same as Gen1
My suspicion right now is that this may be battery temperature related. Was it >45f where you were charging and not seeing de-rating?

As it’s snowing here in St. Louis today I’m going to do a couple of back-to-back tests between our gen1 large pack and gen2 max pack:

1) charging performance between the two packs going from ~90% SoC to ~95% with a cold battery. (Would not normally like to have the R1’s sitting at such a high SoC, but as we are expecting power outages and extreme weather over the next few days it’s good peace of mind)

2) look at the relative performance and characteristics of scheduled climate when raising the cabin temp from ~32f to 75f. I’m particularly interested of the gen2 pulls power from the charger or not.
You may be onto something: Charge to 100% was 50-55 degrees overnight. Charging in Tahoe garage is typically 47-52 degrees (charging to 85%)

You can set in the app for the climate adjustments to pull from wall charger now (may have been an app update, not vehicle update?). This is found under Climate / Schedules
(And yes - warming all surfaces when vehicle is ~ 50 degrees seems a bit excessive, but you know: California :)
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Sorry re: mats. I pulled them out when we picked the car up and put the all season mats in: to my memory, the mats I pulled out seemed quite similar to the Gen 1 mats: thought they were the same with a different pattern.

Agree on the ascend interior and do like those mats more - would have paid up for it on our Dual Motor/Max if they let us
 

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You can set in the app for the climate adjustments to pull from wall charger now (may have been an app update, not vehicle update?). This is found under Climate / Schedules
I'd like to see this actually happen - when casually looking in over the last few days, our gen1 has been drawing power whist running the climate schedule, whist our gen2 has not - may simply be how awesome the heat pump is, that its not dropped the charge enough to decide to pull, or that i simply was not looking correctly in my pre-caffeinated state.

EDIT: the gen2 DOES pull power from shore during the climate schedule cycle.
 
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Do Gen2 all-weather mats have yellow logos. My original ones did, but if I recall correctly they stopped with the yellow details.
 

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@Seano I’m glad to hear you aren’t seeing the derated L2 charging behavior at higher SoC, maybe there is hope for me. On 1 or 2 occasions, my Gen 2 has held 11kw/48A like my Gen 1 used to but those have been the exception. It usually stair steps down above 70%, which is frustrating.

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Gen one mats were made by chilewich, and were very very different to the new mats, especially those in the acend interior which are almost low pile shag rug like. Theres no way the new mats will stand up to any use by people who actually go outdoors - I’m debating buying an aftermarket set of chilewhich mats for our gen2 or just going for the Rivian branded all weather mats again (which are great btw).
I ordered mine all weather mats already. This ascend mats are no good. I live in southern CA, no rain so far. Just imagine people living in area where it rains a lot and all that mud and all... Dude seriously.
 

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Mine definitely de-rates after 90% on level 2. Every EV I've ever had does something similar.

I don't have any problem charging 200kw+ on a DC fast charger with my Gen 2 R1S though -- caveat: I have the LFP pack.
 

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@Seano I’m glad to hear you aren’t seeing the derated L2 charging behavior at higher SoC, maybe there is hope for me. On 1 or 2 occasions, my Gen 2 has held 11kw/48A like my Gen 1 used to but those have been the exception. It usually stair steps down above 70%, which is frustrating.

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My Gen2 does seem to be quite sensitive to any voltage fluctuations (I had a dehumidifier running at the time of the screenshot and can see each time the compressor cycled in the charge rate graph as a ~1 minute dip), but generally stays between 9.5-10.4kW on my 48amp EVSE.

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