MKBHD Gen2 R1S Review

[HapticWagon]

I havent been a huge fan of MKBHD since last year, but still interesting video!

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[DuoRivian]

I havent been a huge fan of MKBHD since last year, but still interesting video!

Why since last year?

 

[HapticWagon]

off-topic-ish, but left like his quality of reviews has gone down a bit (on his main channel and this channel), imo fame got to him a little, and with some controversies too

 

[allisgoodman]

This might be just a tease for the new quad motor R1 review next week.

 

[ElGuano]

This might be just a tease for the new quad motor R1 review next week.

Yeah, if you know his style, that's his hint that he already has access to the Quad motor, and they're prepping a video on it.

I wouldn't be surprised if the reveal drops pretty soon.

 

[lefkonj]

This was just a tease for the quad motor release. Nothing new here at all.

 

[Shaqdeez]

off-topic-ish, but left like his quality of reviews has gone down a bit (on his main channel and this channel), imo fame got to him a little, and with some controversies too

I can confirm, that's super off topic.

 

[SANZC02]

So now we know (with decent probability) the 19th announcement will be the release of the quad.

 

[DayTripping]

If its not the quad, what could they announce that would really matter to most people since the R2 and R3 won't be available for a while?

As for the little improvements, a bunch of little improvements is still little improvement.

I spent the most time I have had so far in a G2 Tri Max and I have to say, that the "upgrades" made even less of an impression on me now after owning my G1 quad, than they did when I was shopping for a Rivian. I've seen how good the basic truck is that some of the alleged upgrades are overstated by the media more than the impact I think they bring.

For some people they may matter more. I have kids and the last thing I need is a cloth seat back. The heatpump may matter to those who don't live in very hot climates as heatpumps aren't as efficient as typical AC when the temps are 90+. The higher res cameras really don't make a difference for me and honestly, they didn't seem that much better. I'll still take a fully manual door handle. The R1S still porpoises and the extra power of the Tri is more likely to induce it than the dual.

 

[portdirect]

Sad to see yet another influencer perpetuate that the claimed range in AP is 371, and make up a justification for it displaying lower

 

[evdriver2016]

For me the upgraded tech is worth it to see where they take their self driving.

 

[DuoRivian]

off-topic-ish, but left like his quality of reviews has gone down a bit (on his main channel and this channel), imo fame got to him a little, and with some controversies too

What controversy? He always seemed straight in his reviews.

 

[Lark]

I have the same Tri, coming off a Gen1 quad and to me, his take is pretty spot on. The Gen 2 Enduro motor and suspension improvements are more refined to me as well with a more fluid, smoother experience. He briefly mentions the new motor, but it really is a noticeable improvement to me and one of the reasons I bought it.
There are real issues with the doors, closure sound/feel and. The sound is very much like a sound door makes that did not close. That is not good, it should at least sound solid. The rear door lacks a readily accessible manual handle. That is not good either and a potentially really bad decision. At minimum there should be a readily accessible pull cord or something for an emergency. To me, a Rivian is much more than the sum of their parts and the team has made so many great safety and design decisions, so the door issues seem to be an anomaly.
I think Rivians are revolutionary vehicles. Sure there are things that you could complain about but really nothing else comes close to this vehicle in so many areas. The company has a tremendous amount of potential. We really enjoy our R!S Tri, it's so capable and enjoyable that we make excuses to drive it all the time.

 

[MarkNorman]

…The heatpump may matter to those who don't live in very hot climates as heatpumps aren't as efficient as typical AC when the temps are 90+.

Totally serious, honest question (not being snarky): What are you basing this statement on? An AC is a unidirectional heat pump. Why would a bidirectional heat pump be any less efficient at cooling? Wouldn’t it totally depend on the specific hardware you are comparing?

We can say with certainty that heat pumps are WAY (2-4 times) more efficient at heating (under normal operating temperatures) than resistive/PTC heaters.

 

[DayTripping]

Totally serious, honest question (not being snarky): What are you basing this statement on? An AC is a unidirectional heat pump. Why would a bidirectional heat pump be any less efficient at cooling? Wouldn’t it totally depend on the specific hardware you are comparing?

We can say with certainty that heat pumps are WAY (2-4 times) more efficient at heating (under normal operating temperatures) than resistive/PTC heaters.

I don't claim to be an expert in this area but I've read several articles and my experience with a non heat pump Model 3 and the same version with heat pumps showed I had worse efficiency in the Texas summers. Heat pump efficiency is typically less than traditional AC units at higher temps if this graph and article is to be believed. It aligns with other articles I've read.

Also keep in matter the faster you go, the less heating/cooling are a portion of the overall energy used and matter less than at lower speeds as aero dynamic drag is largest consumer of energy.

I'll also add there is a very good thread here where someone has compared their efficiency over the same route in the Gen1 truck and Gen2 truck and basically no difference in efficiency between the 2.

https://www.itbgroup.com/blog/2023/02-battery-electric-vehicle-heat-pump-system-value

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