Many new RAN locations added to the official map!

[pricedm]

moab is in good shape but Monticello, bluff are 62kw max. (just used them for camping @ canyonlands Needles this last week) St. George and Kayenta charging are a long way from Bryce, Capitol reef, Glen Canyon recreation area since the Page Tesla charger isn’t compatible and Kanab another slow 62kw charger.

Agree these national parks need charging options. And they align with Rivian's stated goals.

Monticello, UT, is a real treat /s when two EVs are charging...30 kW max. But at least the cost $0.00 helps.

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[Mister Person]

Still holding out hope for some UP chargers.

Yes, and I want that one in Cadillac that was on the original RAN map!

 

[DarthBrader]

When I did the route, I set it to 2.3. Not sure what happened.

Whoah... just loaded it again and I see that. I will say, ABRP has been a bit glitchy for me latetly. Thanks for clarifying!

 

[s4wrxttcs]

I have to question why continue investing in the Rivian charging system when Tesla has such a lead in that area.

There is no evidence to suggest Tesla will continue to build out their network.

Government funding for charging infrastructure will likely dry up as well so we need manufactures to step up to the plate.

 

[Jonger1150]

Still holding out hope for some UP chargers.

YES. Newberry please.

 

[UnsungZero_OldTimeAdMan]

There is no evidence to suggest Tesla will continue to build out their network.

Government funding for charging infrastructure will likely dry up as well so we need manufactures to step up to the plate.

They will if Musk's new status means govt. paying them to. But purely based on market demands, they have good reason not to spend their own dime to expand further. Why? They've already expanded and I'm sure they can tell many sites are under-utilized. Why else would they open some sites to non-Teslas? I have two sites within 4 miles of me. Neither are full most of any 24-hour cycle. One of them is Tesla only (v2) and in a busy shopping mall (Macy's, Apple Store, etc.), surrounded by residential tracts. It's empty as soon as the mall closes. If they convert that to V4 and open to non-Teslas, the adjacent EA and EVgo chargers (5 total, with lines until 1 AM) are toast.

 

[ads75]

Plugshare is your friend. And, check the tesla map at www.tesla.com/nacs for adapter friendly locations.

I've had mixed results with plugshare. I researched one trip the day before I left, when I arrived at one EA site with a very high score (may have been a 10), 3 of the 6 stalls were broken. Long line/free for all to charge. Spots were at the front of a Walmart parking lot, a complete mess on a Saturday around lunch. Parking spots were too small for the Rivian to park without difficulty. Someone was there working on the stalls, which lead me to believe they did not break that morning.

On another recent trip I looked at, plugshare gave another EA site a very high score. But when I used Rivian's trip planning in the app, the site had a score of 'F', which I assume is the lowest score. I ended up taking my Jeep on the trip instead. Two completely conflicting scores, I don't need the headache of 50/50 chance it works. Although with plugshare sometimes people leave comments on broken chargers (I try to if I notice it).

 

[Elazor]

I have to question why continue investing in the Rivian charging system when Tesla has such a lead in that area.

why wouldn’t they invest in chargers? Seems like a good business plan considering rates in Texas are 0.13 / kWh and they charge 0.4 .

 

[Elazor]

Why hasn’t Rivian opened up its charging stations to other EV’s yet? Just as well make money off the charging stations. I’ve seen more Rivian’s at Tesla superchargers then I have seen Rivian’s at RANs.

Since Rivian like everyone else is switching to NACS charging hopefully they are building the charge stations with with quick ability to swap out the charge cables to the correct connector or just start build new stations with NACS and the current R1’s can just adaptor up to plug into RAN

im pretty sure they are planning on opening them up soon. I thought plan was late 2024/2025?

 

[emoore]

why wouldn’t they invest in chargers? Seems like a good business plan considering rates in Texas are 0.13 / kWh and they charge 0.4 .

There are plenty of chargers in other states that dont cover their electricity costs. I bet they aren’t making a profit with RAN and won’t until they charge more.

 

[SANZC02]

If anyone is interested, here is a decent article discussing the viability of a public charger being profitable.

 

[Rividiculous]

I have to question why continue investing in the Rivian charging system when Tesla has such a lead in that area.

Huh? Who cares if Tesla has a “lead”? Cheering for a monopoly?

Why shouldn’t Rivian build out a charging network? It isn’t a zero sum game. There are a lot of different gas stations—and if Rivian can create another revenue stream, that’s a positive. In my experience, the RAN chargers have been great.

(Also, some of us avoid all Tesla products, even their electrons.)

 

[dcleon]

Talk about Adventure I'm waiting on a R1S TriMax and trying to figure out how I make it from Boulder, CO to Bozeman MT. I'm hoping that the phone app. gives me more optimistic charging station options to make that 700 mile trip once I've actually taken delivery than what I currently see available on the app. Crossing Wyoming is a long relatively empty journey anytime of year and the winter's snow and hurricane force winds from the west give me pause to attempt it with the so few charging station options. Made the drive many times in an GX450 in winter but the fuel consumption was ridiculous and gas stations common.

Hey! I just did that trip. Laramie to Missoula actually.

Charging at the mall in Casper is solid. Sheridan is the choke point, but the single fast charger at the Jeep dealer worked fine for me, but it’d be a disaster if that one didn’t work. Billings was fast enough and had a pizza place across the parking lot.

If you’re considering alternate routes, I was able to charge in Lander and Cody. Better setup in Lander with multiple ~150 kw chargers. Single charger at a car dealer in Cody (at least it’s close to downtown, so you can walk to restaurants) but it worked.

 

[Kidentist]

Regardless of Elon's "good standing" with the upcoming administration, I don't see fed money going to subsidize EV charging infrastructure for a while. What you see is what you get for now.....I guess??

 

[emoore]

Regardless of Elon's "good standing" with the upcoming administration, I don't see fed money going to subsidize EV charging infrastructure for a while. What you see is what you get for now.....I guess??

Even if the IRA was repealed it will still take a while (probably years) for that to happen. There are quite a few states that have been starting building chargers in the NEVI program. Also charging companies can still build more chargers without Fed money, I'm willing to bet some states step in to.

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