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It's April 2nd and I'm still waiting for my NACS adapter email!!!

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I have had my truck just shy of 2 years and have not received the email. Hoping this month really. History says it will be a while....unfortunately.
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At the risk of raising a serious question in this thread, are Tesla Superchargers price competitive anywhere?

The convenience / availability is definitely unrivaled and I'm very excited to have the option regardless of cost, but in my area the Superchargers are just insanely overpriced compared to the other options out there.

For context, Tesla here is about $0.47 per kW vs. $0.44 per minute at EA for their "HyperFast" tier that can basically max out the R1 (I usually see about ~380 mi/hr at that speed on my R1S and nets out to somewhere around $0.16/kW based on my average efficiency).

Rivian R1T R1S It's April 2nd and I'm still waiting for my NACS adapter email!!! IMG_0675
 

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Yes, they are price competitive and there’s way more of them than CCS. The EA around here charge per kW, now minute…
 
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Thank you. I literally 😂 when I read the title. Humor always wins sometimes.
My next post will be the day after I get the email - asking why I haven't received the actual adapter, dammit!?!?!
 

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At the risk of raising a serious question in this thread, are Tesla Superchargers price competitive anywhere?

The convenience / availability is definitely unrivaled and I'm very excited to have the option regardless of cost, but in my area the Superchargers are just insanely overpriced compared to the other options out there.

For context, Tesla here is about $0.47 per kW vs. $0.44 per minute at EA for their "HyperFast" tier that can basically max out the R1 (I usually see about ~380 mi/hr at that speed on my R1S and nets out to somewhere around $0.16/kW based on my average efficiency).

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I am looking at the Tesla and EA apps right now, almost 4 PM PST. Rates at nearest sites for each network.

Tesla (3 mi away):
  • $0.66/kWh, non-member
  • 10 out of 16 chargers available right now
  • $1/min idel fee
EA (2.5 mi away):
  • $0.56/kWh, pass+ memeber
  • 0 of 6 charger available right now. And from experience, it's not going to free up until close to or past midnight. Majority of patrons are VW, KIA and Hyundai.
  • $0.40/min idel fee
For me, not having to stay up late and influence how my next day is going to go, it's worth it. Past 11PM, Tesla's rate drops to $0.32. And, iirc, EA would be $0.36. At 11PM, if I can get a charge, I can still get to bed before midnight. EA, not so much. And there are times, like last week, when EA app said 3 different sites had availability but actually didn't. Two of them had a line.
 
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At the risk of raising a serious question in this thread, are Tesla Superchargers price competitive anywhere?
Yes, Tesla is cheaper in some places. But more expensive in others. And some Tesla chargers have prices that vary with time of day, which makes comparison trickier. Around here Tesla chargers are ~$0.26 - $0.51 / kWh. While EA is uniformly $0.36 (with pass).

The convenience / availability is definitely unrivaled and I'm very excited to have the option regardless of cost, but in my area the Superchargers are just insanely overpriced compared to the other options out there.
Well ... you might want to check your expectations. The RAN is pretty exceptional too. None of the Tesla V2 chargers are going to open to CCS users, and it's those V2 chargers that are the ones that tend to be found in the CCS "dead zones". So opening the supercharges isn't going to necessarily do anything more than give you more choices in places you already have CCS chargers.

Tesla reliability also isn't as good as people make it out to be - I can see lots of pedestals out of service in my state (using the Tesla app), so I don't buy the whole "never broken" narrative that is often promoted by Tesla owners. Regardless, Tesla chargers do usually have more pedestals than EA or ChargePoint or EVGo etc., so perhaps having a few offline doesn't matter as much. I've never had to wait in line for a CCS charger - that seems to be a problem in some parts of the country, but not where I drive.

Bottom line, opening the Tesla chargers is a good thing, but not a miracle cure. Like always, check the price and availability, and make and informed decision as to where to stop and charge.
 

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Yes, Tesla is cheaper in some places. But more expensive in others. And some Tesla chargers have prices that vary with time of day, which makes comparison trickier. Around here Tesla chargers are ~$0.26 - $0.51 / kWh. While EA is uniformly $0.36 (with pass).


Well ... you might want to check your expectations. The RAN is pretty exceptional too. None of the Tesla V2 chargers are going to open to CCS users, and it's those V2 chargers that are the ones that tend to be found in the CCS "dead zones". So opening the supercharges isn't going to necessarily do anything more than give you more choices in places you already have CCS chargers.

Tesla reliability also isn't as good as people make it out to be - I can see lots of pedestals out of service in my state (using the Tesla app), so I don't buy the whole "never broken" narrative that is often promoted by Tesla owners. Regardless, Tesla chargers do usually have more pedestals than EA or ChargePoint or EVGo etc., so perhaps having a few offline doesn't matter as much. I've never had to wait in line for a CCS charger - that seems to be a problem in some parts of the country, but not where I drive.

Bottom line, opening the Tesla chargers is a good thing, but not a miracle cure. Like always, check the price and availability, and make and informed decision as to where to stop and charge.

Maybe the V2s will eventually be upgraded? And, anecdotal, around here the Tesla sites are usually not busy. Maybe majority of Tesla owners can charge at home, while others can't (or won’t because of manufacturer-offered free charging). And there are more Tesla chargers per site (more room to park "wrong" and charge without inconveniencing anyone). If the rates are competitive, one is busy now and until past midnight, while the other practically unoccupied, guess which I'm going to?
 
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How come I haven't received this email. What is it with this company?
They said they would be notifying people in APRIL. APRIL JUST STARTED. Come back on April 29th and complain if you haven't heard anything by then, not on the 2nd day of the month. LOL! :)
 

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I ordered a worm hole generator, radar deflecting paint, and Octa motor config and guide has my order in pending status. I did confirm my parts for the time slip package were back in stock so we are making progress. Just got my home cold fusion reactor installed, but damn adapter is still pending delivery :angry:
 

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The prices are high on other networks. Tesla membership can still work but you have to activate through the Tesla app vs plug and charge.

If you think those Tesla prices are high you should have seen EVgo standard prices in the northeast. Peak pricing was $0.69 per kWh with no membership.

I would happily pay a few cents more per kWh to have a better charging experience than EA.
 

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Just watched reviews of both. I think you are right. And given how these are plastic bodied, and prone to cosmetic damage when dropped, the Lectron does seem to have a better and less accident-prone locking latch to the Tesla plug.

Lectron unit looks great and solid as well.

Just some comments on our unit : our full insulation with organosilicon allows the adapter to absorb shocks if dropped and the latch is made is aluminum alloy. The exterior casing of the adapter is very very very hard to break.
 

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Lectron unit looks great and solid as well.

Just some comments on our unit : our full insulation with organosilicon allows the adapter to absorb shocks if dropped and the latch is made is aluminum alloy. The exterior casing of the adapter is very very very hard to break.
I have a real test for this adapter. I will run it over with two Rivians 🤠

Tesla Model Y is too light for "it will never break" claims 😀
 
 




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