Invited to see the F150 Lightning tomorrow (8/5) and meet with Ford's General Manager of EV's

[DucRider]

That should be done on the onboard vehicle charger. The wall chargers for the home are AC chargers. The vehicles have an on board charger that converts from AC to DC when loading into the battery. Vehicles that support VtoH and VtoG should be making this DC to AC conversion before it leaves the vehicle.

No.
V2H/G systems are connected thru the DC charge port pins to the vehicle. The V2H/G hardware is on your wall, the vehicle side is just software.

Edit:
V2L systems do convert the DC to AC on-board and supply it via outlets. Rivian and Hyundai are providing 120V, Bollinger and Ford are promising both 120 and 240V capability

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[SANZC02]

No.
V2H/G systems are connected thru the DC charge port pins to the vehicle. The V2H/G hardware is on your wall, the vehicle side is just software.

Edit:
V2L systems do convert the DC to AC on-board and supply it via outlets. Rivian and Hyundai are providing 120V, Bollinger and Ford are promising both 120 and 240V capability

I stand corrected.....

Ford F-150 Lightning Can Keep Lights On When Your Power Goes Out (caranddriver.com)

EDIT:
Here is another good article talking about the technology

What are vehicle-to-grid services? | Switch (switch-ev.com)

 

[jacksonhandy]

I got an invite to an Atlanta event in a couple of weeks today.

 

[ATL_Canes]

I got an invite to an Atlanta event in a couple of weeks today.

Same - it's down at the Atlanta Motor Speedway. I'm up in North Fulton, so I'm gonna pass. Hope folks get some good info, though.

 

[Fast911]

Beautiful truck…this one price at $88,000. Had to see what other options are out there.

 

[RivianXpress]

Just got back - I tried to get all your questions answered

Here you go:

1. Range - 300 miles with 1000 lb payload
2. Some show more range than 200 - see above
3. Will there be a range extender - not at this time
4. Can we start ordering back up power system installs - Not until you order your truck
5. will the 80A charger also work for the Mach-e - YES
6. When will the build and _price tool be available- Q4 2021
7. Target production numbers for 2022 - NOT SAYING
8. Which trim levels when - FALL 2021
9. Estimate of first year delivery #’s and date - MID 2022 for early RSVP - NO #’s
10. Will PRO have same color options as XLT and move - COLOR OPTIONS CURRENTLY ON WEB
11. can we add 360 camera all cart - NO
12. When will we see official trim levels - FALL 2021
13. Same colors as current 150 -NO
14. Will Fiord/SunRun kits be available in advance - NO
15. Price for fully loaded platinum - $89K
16. DC fast charging curve same as Mach E better - BETTER
17. How long will it charge at 125 - 150 MAX BUT BETTER THAN MACH E
18. Will there be an 8’ bed - MAYBE LATER
19. No ADM’s ? - THEY ARE TRYING TO AVOID THEM
20. Is the Silver prototype ‘ice blue silver’ - YES
21. Confirmation that the Pro extended range is fleet only. - CONFIRMED
22. 60k is the minimum to purchase the extended range - YES
23. Charging over 200kWh - NO
24. First Edition model - NO
25. Range drop when towing - YES
26. Will the DC-AC inverter panel for the Intelligent Backup Power be a standard part of the Charge Station Pro or an optional add-on to the 80A EVSE included with the Extended Range battery models? - ADD ON
27. Month that orders start - FALL 2021
28. Why is Ford refusing to sell the Pro extended range to standard consumers - NO IDEA
29. Charge Profile - FLATTER THAN MACH-E - 150 MAX FOR NOW
30. Will there be a propulsion sound - YES
31. When will order banks open - FALL 2021
32. Will there be a more off road oriented package available for the Lightning? - NO
33. Is X-Plan going to be available, for the Lightning, at launch? - NOT SURE YET
34. Will people with reservations get a chance to experience or even drive the Lightning before ordering? - TEST DRIVE IN SPRING 2022
35. Is Ford going to take any action to insure dealerships don't charge any dealer markup on ordered Lightnings?
36. Cloth seats for the Pro - THEY ARE TRYING
37. Will Blues Clues be available on the XLT or is it exclusive to the Lariat and Platnium? - NOT SURE
38. Will the twin panel moonroof be available on the XLT? - NO
39. Can you ask if solar panels are required to use V2G function for battery backup - NOT NEEDED

Other tidbits

- They are trying to keep people placed according to when they paced their orders. Early reservation holders will hopefully place orders late fall or Q4 2021. First deliveries Mid 2022 - may be a little earlier

- 5 to 81 percent in 41 min DC
- 10 min charges up 54 miles
- Test drives next year q2
- Invites to order q4
- If you have a charger already you may get more free kw
- Different levels of Lariet and XLT
- Lariat "Lux" (?) includes larger battery, tow package and other - $10k added?

I came away very impressed - I also have a Rivian RSVP and hope they do something similar soon!!


I reached no to press the RANGE button for you guys at the start of the event. Before they were getting tough!

 

[RivianXpress]

 

[dleewla]

Ask them if the range estimate was done with a 1000lbs payload that Marques Brownlee was told by a Ford rep.
Ask them what the battery sizes are for the different range estimates.
Ask them about off-road capability and things like approach, departure, and breakover angles.
Ask them how much the truck weighs.

 

[RivianXpress]

Payload consist of the frunk, passenger and bed areas.

 

[BWillR1T]

I know there could be some other factors here but doing some quick math, 148 miles of range and 57% of battery remaining would equate to 344 miles of range. Perhaps that is what you get without (or a reduced) 1,000 payload.

 

[Dark-Fx]

Really curious if we're going to see anything from SVT/Shelby/Roush for the EVs.

 

[DuckTruck]

BWillR1T,

I think your calculation may be reversed. It would appear you extrapolated that 148 miles of travel took 43% of the battery and that the driver should expect to get 344 total miles from this charge (148/0.43 = 344).

I believe the screen is telling us 43% of the battery has been used, and the remaining 57% of this charge leaves us with 148 miles remaining. Therefore, the equation for total miles on this charge should read: 148/0.57 = 259.65 miles total for this charge.

This would mean that 43% of the range used got us 111.65 miles (259.65 × 0.43 = 111.65) and the remaining 57% of the battery should be good for the 148 shown on the screen. Is that right? So the 111.65 miles driven using 43% of the battery leaves us with an expected 148 miles left with the other 57%, getting us to about 260 total miles.

I'd hate for anyone to have their hopes of 344 miles per charge dashed by only getting 260 miles, but I believe that is what the math is telling us.

Please let me know if I got this wrong.

 

[RivianXpress]

Here are a few more. I don’t understand the ‘km’ notation in the dash. The charge ring was also showing two segments later in the day where it was three earlier. Vehicle was plugged in and charging most if the time but had stopped at one point. I mentioned this and they restarted the charge.

 

[SANZC02]

Here are a few more. I don’t understand the ‘km’ notation in the dash. The charge ring was also showing two segments later in the day where it was three earlier. Vehicle was plugged in and charging most if the time but had stopped at one point. I mentioned this and they restarted the charge.

That is even more interesting, is the gauge wrong or the charge screen. The gauge says with 57% you can drive 150KM, the charge screen says 150 miles.

If Gauge is right and it is KM then
((150*100)/57)*.62 = 163.15 miles of range at 100%
If charge screen is right and is miles
(150*100)/57 = 263.15 miles of range at 100%

 

[Pugster]

I'd hate for anyone to have their hopes of 344 miles per charge dashed by only getting 260 miles, but I believe that is what the math is telling us.

Please let me know if I got this wrong.

Seeing that it’s the “charge” screen I think you’re spot on. 57% charged, mileage is indicating what range that should get you.

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