Im hoping Rivian is making provision for new battery technology that may come out during the life of the vehicle

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There are many possibilities being talked about. It makes me hesitant to buy the $10k up grade if a better option may become available.





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Honestly, I think if being able to upgrade to a new battery technology in the Rivian later is of concern, you may want to hold off on buying.

Not trying to be a dick. We just haven't seen anything that would indicate upgrading or swapping battery packs will be possible, much less an entirely different battery technology.

I think everyone needs to go into this purchase with the mindset that whatever you originally buy is what you'll have a the end of vehicle life. (actually less, due to battery degradation).
 

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We just haven't seen anything that would indicate upgrading or swapping battery packs will be possible, much less an entirely different battery technology.
You are right. In fact, many of the Rivian engineers at the events were asked about this specifically, by myself and others, and indicated that swapping or upgrading the batteries will NOT be supported by Rivian.
 

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Been through this thought process myself some time ago. While I completely agree with the above statements, I will also advise everyone not to worry about it. All technology is evolving at a very rapid pace and something better will always be on the horizon. That doesn't mean the R1 is going to be obsolete in the next 10 years.
 

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Never buy a product today based on promises of functionality tomorrow.

300 or 400 miles of range will either work for you, or it wont. No one has a clue as to when longer range vehicles will come out.
 

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No one has a clue as to when longer range vehicles will come out.
I think it will be 5-10 years. That's what I'm waiting on to replace my diesel tow rig.

Charging tech/infrastructure will need to improve as well for larger battery capacities.
 

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I think it will be 5-10 years. That's what I'm waiting on to replace my diesel tow rig.

Charging tech/infrastructure will need to improve as well for larger battery capacities.
My 2012 Tesla Model S had a range of 265 miles, if I recall correctly. Batteries now are basically the same as then, just some vehicles have more of them. Hopefully your WAG is correct.
 

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Just like all technology purchases you balance your budget vs the feature set for your use case. Make the best decision and then you get to ENJOY your new toy. Always something better down the pipeline. After buying this first EV I'm hoping solid state batteries will be at that mass market stage in 10 years when I'm ready to upgrade again
 

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No one has a clue as to when longer range vehicles will come out.
I do. The new, longer range model, at substantially lower price, is announced within a month of whenever you take delivery,
 

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I don't know what Prostetuki Kiev means exactly but I have a pretty good idea.

And Kiev is a long way from Port Louis

[Edit]As the administrator(s) have, quite rightly, removed the post that preceded this one these remarks will be meaningless so I'll explain that the removed post was posted from Mauritius and listed some URLs which pointed to a site titled "Prostetuki Kiev".
 
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There will always new technology as many have already mentioned. But, since Rivian does not offer leases, it would be harder pill to swallow because you can't just get a newer car in 3 years if you like to keep up with technology.

As for battery technology in general, even if they come up with the holy grail in 2 years, it will take many more to upgrade the infrastructure to support it probably. Even at current charging rates, since most people still charge at home, it might not save as much time as you think it might if you are one of those people.
 

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There will always new technology as many have already mentioned. But, since Rivian does not offer leases, it would be harder pill to swallow because you can't just get a newer car in 3 years if you like to keep up with technology.
1)Why can't you get a newer car in 3 years?
2)Though Rivian does not offer leases directly some third party might.
 
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There will always new technology as many have already mentioned. But, since Rivian does not offer leases, it would be harder pill to swallow because you can't just get a newer car in 3 years if you like to keep up with technology.
You can always sell/trade your vehicle.

Leasing isn't always the best option -- even if you want to get something new in 3 years. Leasing usually has an acquisition fee and disposition fee, which can be avoided on a purchase. Also, sometimes the interest rate on a purchase is less than the money factor on a lease.

The primary benefit of a closed-ended lease is that you know the "agreed" residual value for turn-in purposes, at lease inception.

It's important to run the numbers on both options every time you're looking at a new vehicle. Every situation can be different.
 

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My 2012 Tesla Model S had a range of 265 miles, if I recall correctly. Batteries now are basically the same as then, just some vehicles have more of them. Hopefully your WAG is correct.
Your 2012 battery capacity has degraded. Your 2012 charging speed is sub-optimal compared to current models. It is the nature of automobile evolution for things to change.
 

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