Help on my road trip with range planning

[Amie H]

Just did the first part of my 1st Rivian road trip. Driven the same route tons in my Tesla Y. I have the Gen 2 R1S, Dual max battery. Wondering if I was doing something wrong, as the car‘s nav system had me stopping to charge about every 150 miles, approximately. I know that having the heater on can definitely add to my charge degradation, but this was excessive. For ex. from one charger to the next, approximately 200 miles apart, no matter what I did it wanted to “add stops”. when I did it thru the phone app (much easier) and didn’t allow stops, had a good extra 150 miles plus, and pressed on, still ended up telling me to stop to charge. I have read about the less efficient range on the R1S, but this is excessive. It seems a better use of “time” to not try to charge to 100 %, as the car significantly slows the charging….painfully slow. I do think I will just stick to Tesla and Rivian chargers, I did a one month Tesla membership and think it already paid off.
Any thoughts or suggestions would be greatly appreciated for the return trip this week.
thanks in advance

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[Jabbahop]

Just did the first part of my 1st Rivian road trip. Driven the same route tons in my Tesla Y. I have the Gen 2 R1S, Dual max battery. Wondering if I was doing something wrong, as the car‘s nav system had me stopping to charge about every 150 miles, approximately. I know that having the heater on can definitely add to my charge degradation, but this was excessive. For ex. from one charger to the next, approximately 200 miles apart, no matter what I did it wanted to “add stops”. when I did it thru the phone app (much easier) and didn’t allow stops, had a good extra 150 miles plus, and pressed on, still ended up telling me to stop to charge. I have read about the less efficient range on the R1S, but this is excessive. It seems a better use of “time” to not try to charge to 100 %, as the car significantly slows the charging….painfully slow. I do think I will just stick to Tesla and Rivian chargers, I did a one month Tesla membership and think it already paid off.
Any thoughts or suggestions would be greatly appreciated for the return trip this week.
thanks in advance

one thing to check is the setting for ending miles @ charger. Put in route in navigation. Tap on the down arrow to see more details on route/stops. Tap the gear icon and you can change the expected battery level when you arrive (@ charging and/or destination). The other is to try to make sure the car/battery is warm from being plugged in prior to departure which will help maintain some charge and increase efficiency. I often find the car is overly cautious about charging stops and will eliminate a stop (if other options are available) and choose one a bit further along. Hope that helps.

 

[COdogman]

Agree with @Jabbahop to check that setting first. I have forgotten sometimes and it adds in stops I know I don’t need or want. That is probably what is creating this issue for you.

The Rivian charging curve is obviously going to be different than a Tesla curve, mostly because the battery is bigger, especially in your max pack. There are different theories on what is most efficient when on a road trip - charging to 100% and going as far as you can but stops are longer vs. stopping more often but keeping it between 20-80% so the charges are quicker. If you know the route well and you have plenty of options along the way I would personally do the shorter, quicker stops, but neither is wrong… I’m happy to stop and stretch my legs more often anyway. I’m not 22 and trying to pull an all night road trip to Vegas anymore

 

[Riviot]

I often find the car is overly cautious about charging stops and will eliminate a stop (if other options are available) and choose one a bit further along.

I concur with the doctor on this one, Rivian is overly cautious and adds stops or makes them longer than they need be. It also predicts you'll get there with far less range, just to have the arrival miles creep up during the drive.

Better than other systems that leave you arriving with 0% or stranded though, right?

 

[Amie H]

Just did the first part of my 1st Rivian road trip. Driven the same route tons in my Tesla Y. I have the Gen 2 R1S, Dual max battery. Wondering if I was doing something wrong, as the car‘s nav system had me stopping to charge about every 150 miles, approximately. I know that having the heater on can definitely add to my charge degradation, but this was excessive. For ex. from one charger to the next, approximately 200 miles apart, no matter what I did it wanted to “add stops”. when I did it thru the phone app (much easier) and didn’t allow stops, had a good extra 150 miles plus, and pressed on, still ended up telling me to stop to charge. I have read about the less efficient range on the R1S, but this is excessive. It seems a better use of “time” to not try to charge to 100 %, as the car significantly slows the charging….painfully slow. I do think I will just stick to Tesla and Rivian chargers, I did a one month Tesla membership and think it already paid off.
Any thoughts or suggestions would be greatly appreciated for the return trip this week.
thanks in advance

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[Amie H]

In the car nav, was/ is set up for arrive at 6%. Also only have Tesla and RAN in the network settings……has me stopping at everywhere…all charging options. Sorry, clueless

 

[Jabbahop]

In the car nav, was/ is set up for arrive at 6%. Also only have Tesla and RAN in the network settings……has me stopping at everywhere…all charging options. Sorry, clueless

you could also try tapping the button along the right side of navigation that allows you to report the navigation is wrong - I am not in the car so I forget the actual options and have no idea if they actually review the logs but I know I press it when they give me wrong directions or charging stops advice.

 

[Electrified Outdoors]

It’s the settings as was stated above. Rivian defaults to 20% arrival range. I have mine defaulted to 10%. 10% is what Tesla uses in their NAV IIRC and if you charge to 80% at a charger that means you use about 70% between charging stops.

R1S Max pack is a beast on road trips…but….cold weather uses more energy as the truck tries to keep battery at good operating temp. So winter range is a bit lower.

 

[Brian-MS90D]

Agree with what others said. And, coming from a Y to a R1S myself the road tripping experience is different.

In my Y, the Nav was always overly optimistic at start, would always be lowering my expected state of charge at arrival during the drive, and then often would suggest I slow down (below 60mph or 50 mph) or charge sooner than originally predicted. That was not a pleasant experience, for me. The Rivian is more conservative, but at least we can adjust the arrival percentage. I enjoy the Rivian approach better; it's more reliable and less worrisome.

Plus, one can drive faster in the R1S than the Y since the R1S is overall far less efficient than the Y which means the higher speed has less of an impact on range (just like a gas car is terribly inefficient; therefore, the loss of range at higher speeds matters less). I liked the sportiness of my Y, but the road tripping experience in a Tesla was poor (in my opinion).

 

[AnninSI]

I have a dual max pack R1S and find the route planning terrific. One item of note in this thread, at start, system will plan a stop but eliminate the stop as you proceed based on your actual performance. Seems as if you should put in a ticket if a reset does not fix this.

 

[Amie H]

Just did the first part of my 1st Rivian road trip. Driven the same route tons in my Tesla Y. I have the Gen 2 R1S, Dual max battery. Wondering if I was doing something wrong, as the car‘s nav system had me stopping to charge about every 150 miles, approximately. I know that having the heater on can definitely add to my charge degradation, but this was excessive. For ex. from one charger to the next, approximately 200 miles apart, no matter what I did it wanted to “add stops”. when I did it thru the phone app (much easier) and didn’t allow stops, had a good extra 150 miles plus, and pressed on, still ended up telling me to stop to charge. I have read about the less efficient range on the R1S, but this is excessive. It seems a better use of “time” to not try to charge to 100 %, as the car significantly slows the charging….painfully slow. I do think I will just stick to Tesla and Rivian chargers, I did a one month Tesla membership and think it already paid off.
Any thoughts or suggestions would be greatly appreciated for the return trip this week.
thanks in advance

 

[Amie H]

Not sure if this contributed to the discrepancy with predicted range, but realized the car’s specs had it using 22” all terrain wheels, when it actually has 20” all seasons. Rivian did reconfigure during a mobile visit. We will see.

 

[Robin]

Agree with @Jabbahop to check that setting first. I have forgotten sometimes and it adds in stops I know I don’t need or want. That is probably what is creating this issue for you.

The Rivian charging curve is obviously going to be different than a Tesla curve, mostly because the battery is bigger, especially in your max pack. There are different theories on what is most efficient when on a road trip - charging to 100% and going as far as you can but stops are longer vs. stopping more often but keeping it between 20-80% so the charges are quicker. If you know the route well and you have plenty of options along the way I would personally do the shorter, quicker stops, but neither is wrong… I’m happy to stop and stretch my legs more often anyway. I’m not 22 and trying to pull an all night road trip to Vegas anymore

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