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GRAND WAGONEER vs. R1S -- WHO Copied WHO? Jeep or Rivian?

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How many different ways are there to make a giant box?


FWIW Rivian’s head of design came from Jeep, along with a few other design people.
 

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Both are copying Range Rover
 

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Easy answer: The R1S prototype was revealed in November 2018, while the Grand Wagoneer was not unveiled until September 2020. Jeep was faster to get to production, but Rivian had the design first.
 

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Every time I'm behind a wagoneer, expedition or new tahoe/suburban I can't help but think how ugly, bulky and low hanging the independent rear suspension is, and how elegant and well packaged the R1S/R1T suspension is.
 

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I’m a long time Wagoneer guy and have modded a Grand Cherokee years ago, but the new Waggy looks like a walk-in refrigerator.

Agree with @JeremyP above.

Zero nod to its heritage IMO. They just slapped on the badge.

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Judging by how much chrome is on wagoneer it must have been designed 8 years ago. Thus advantage Jeep......
 

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I personally don’t think they look anything alike in the rear.
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