We're speculating here. That part is (should be) obvious. You came in with a hard opinion of "no car company will survive doing that"...yet Tesla is and has been doing just that.
This is obvious truth. For Rivian as a startup car company, if they can't sell new cars because people elect to upgrade what they have, it would be tough to stay in business. I have never known a car company who takes this approach. I'm a long time Porsche owner of multiple models and have never seen Porsche providing an upgrade path for existing current models. If you want the latest and greatest, buy the new one. They do offer upgrades for models three or four generations back because those owners are not interested in trading in.
And those who disagree hate to hear this simple truth because it doesn’t conform to their personal preferences. Another simple truth, motivations of an individual consumer isn’t the same as those of a business and often completely opposite. OEM want to make most amount of profit per car. Consumers want most feature per dollar (some even want/expect things for free).
I never said I work at the dealership level. I work on advertising for a OEM. Have done so for other OEMs in the past. I have regular interactions with people at North American HQ who manage marketing and sales, nationally and internationally. Occasionally, I interact with people from engineering and design.
https://www.costcoauto.com/new_cars/buildvehicle.aspx?trimid=457668
A few other interesting tidbits:
The same 8 colors that are available now (maybe Rivian will add another special color)
4 seat color options
4 wood trim options
You never heard of Tesla?
Lol okay buddy - lot of assumptions there.
Lol again with the assumptions. I never stated you worked at a dealership. I simply made a statement to show that you stating "I work in the car business" doesn't bring much to the table in terms of facts. Rephrasing, "trust me, bro" doesn't add any weight to your arguments. Which is effectively what you did. Advertising, uh? Interesting.
When gen 3 arrives, we'll know who's right.
Last I heard, they're both in the business to make cars.
For Rivian as a car maker, your feedback doesn't mean squat when it comes to their business model - that is to sell cars and make money. They have to show investors growth in the number of cars being sold year over year. Growth is king.
That additional revenue, LOL, how much would that be in the scheme of things? Do they want to sell cars or do they want to sell parts? Enough said. Last but not least, a simplified, modular approach in hardware means less cost to manufacture and does not translate to upgradability to the consumers in their existing ownership. Bet all you want, you won't see any realized hardware upgrade path. There is no when. That would be giving away the advantage for Rivian as a startup trying to show how many cars they can sell.
Lol way to oversimplify things to fit your argument. Luckily that's not how the real world works
Feedback comes in all shapes a sizes. Verbal, written, silence, or whether or not I choose to purchase a product. Public opinion also plays a huge part as it's the collective of a common verbal or written opinion. So, once again, you're simply missing the bigger picture.
Ah, you're telling us more about yourself than you laughing alone at me.
Where did you read about the path to upgradability for the current model in Rivian's mission statement? You're reading what's never there. Period. I encourage you to give verbal, written or whatever feedback to Rivian. I'll wait to see the results or the egg, whatever.Lol way to oversimplify things to fit your argument. Luckily that's not how the real world works
Perhaps you should read Rivian's mission statements?
https://rivian.com/our-company
Today we’re operating off hundreds of millions of years of accumulated plant- and animal-based carbon. On our current path, we will fully exhaust this stored energy in only a few generations and, in the process, carbonize our atmosphere to such a degree that life as we know it will not be possible. If the planet is to continue to sustain life and enchant future generations, we have to change.....Integrating these decisions into a company-wide sustainability strategy is a foundational step on our path toward net-zero carbon emissions. Rivian has signed the Climate Pledge to reach that goal by 2040 — 10 years ahead of the Paris Agreement.
Guess what? Upgradability lowers waste. And fits their business model.
So yeah, a matter of "when" not "if".
Feedback comes in all shapes a sizes. Verbal, written, silence, or whether or not I choose to purchase a product. Public opinion also plays a huge part as it's the collective of a common verbal or written opinion. So, once again, you're simply missing the bigger picture.
Ah, you're telling us more about yourself than you laughing alone at me.
No, not enough said. That's not how the real world works. You can sell both.
To bad this isn't Reddit where I can have a bot come back and remind me when you have egg on your face
I said it fits their model. In other words, it's implied that it's a future possibility.
You can't compare them directly to Porche. Porche is the entrance of a house. Porsche is a German high-performance sports car manufacturer.I said it fits their model. In other words, it's implied that it's a future possibility.
Not that it was in it directly nor did I state I read it somewhere.
But, yes, keep doing what I said you'd would earlier
As of now Rivian hasn't announced anything in regards to upgradability involving the Gen2 platform specifically (going from Gen2)
They haven't stated it is or isn't in their roadmap. Or that it would or wouldn't be supported.
They have for Gen1. No dice there. And we have actual objective facts and reasons why that is a no-go.
Your bets are on that will never support upgradability, ever, as a "car company". That's great.
My bets is that it will eventually come. Are there more important factors and priorities? Yes, of course. Once they tackle and achieve those, I believe upgradeability will surface. As a start up, they have to remain flexible and hold their cards close. But sure, lets continue to compare them directly to Porche ?
Then scroll up, pal. Because you did just that. ?
