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I’m willing to bet that once Rivian opens the RAN they will allow everyone to use the EV tire network. Unlike Musk who’s purposely limiting the number of superchargers that CCS cars can use. It’s total crap for someone who keeps saying he’s trying to spread the adoption of EVs.
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Rivian is opening the RAN network.

Rivian is switching to NACS.

What will that transition look like?

Will they add a NACS cable?

Will they replace the CCS plug with a NACS plug?
With adapter required or built in Magicdock?
 

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Yeah, I’ve been charging my my Rivian on Tesla superchargers for months now. Here’s a picture from December. I also include an image of the session details.

Rivian R1T R1S FYI: Tesla Supercharges will not work with Rivians until officially announced as compatible. IMG_4044


Rivian R1T R1S FYI: Tesla Supercharges will not work with Rivians until officially announced as compatible. IMG_5064
 

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Yeah, I’ve been charging my my Rivian on Tesla superchargers for months now. Here’s a picture from December. I also include an image of the session details.

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Only ones with a magic dock. Not all the ones open to Ford now.
 

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Tesla is insisting on an experience for CCS cars like tesla cars experience; plug and charge. This should have been the standard from day one for CCS. Rivian embraced it. This is what we should demand and not settle for less.

Everybody else has their own stupid app or a credit card reader that doesn't work. Their stations don't have certified ammeters so many jurisdictions make you pay by the minute. Like diesel gate they purposely ignore metrics to detect if their network is available or properly functioning so nevi can apply. The cables are crazy unwieldy for a woman to wrangle and often can't deliver the speed they should. The government in their infinite wisdom can't see past the gas pump model and the loop holes allow for an experience even worse than that.
 
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It will be a great benefit in the future, but certainly not a deal breaker without it today.
 

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Only ones with a magic dock. Not all the ones open to Ford now.
They do If you have your own NACS adapter.
You just fill in the vehicle information in the Tesla app. Otherwise, the app will only let you go to magic dock, equipped stations.
Can’t wait till it just works with out the Tesla app.

Rivian R1T R1S FYI: Tesla Supercharges will not work with Rivians until officially announced as compatible. IMG_5065
 

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From Tom Moloughney/State of Charge: The A2Z, Ford and Lectron adapters will not work to charge the Bolt or Rivian at this time.
 

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There's a couple of Tesla charging stations close to me, one just opened up on the Rivian navigation screen and also on the app. And on the Tesla App. I like my destination charger dongle (ha ha, he said 'dongle'), and might try it out later today.
 

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They do If you have your own NACS adapter.
You just fill in the vehicle information in the Tesla app. Otherwise, the app will only let you go to magic dock, equipped stations.
Can’t wait till it just works with out the Tesla app.
I'm confused (which can happen very easily). Are you suggesting that all you need is an adapter and the Tesla app to use any Tesla Supercharging station? We keep reading how we can (1) only use Rivian supplied adapters and (2) have to have an sw update.
 

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They do If you have your own NACS adapter.
You just fill in the vehicle information in the Tesla app. Otherwise, the app will only let you go to magic dock, equipped stations.
Can’t wait till it just works with out the Tesla app.

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Tesla blanket added the configuration but it doesn't work for anyone but Ford vehicles today. You can't activate a charge on your Rivian even if you had the Ford adapter today.
 
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I'm confused (which can happen very easily). Are you suggesting that all you need is an adapter and the Tesla app to use any Tesla Supercharging station? We keep reading how we can (1) only use Rivian supplied adapters and (2) have to have an sw update.
Rivians will not work until they are officially launched on the Supercharger network regardless of you having an adapter. There is an authorization process that validates the type of vehicle at the dispenser prior to the start of charging. (excluding Magicdock sites)

It might look like you can do this in the Tesla app. You cannot. :(
 

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Their stations don't have certified ammeters so many jurisdictions make you pay by the minute.
That is due to state laws that prohibit per kWh pricing except for utilities. Even Superhargers bill per minute in those states.

Also, you can initiate charges through the Tesla app or the Ford app in addition to plug and charge. EA has had plug and charge for Ford vehicles for nearly 2 years.
 

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Unlike Musk who’s purposely limiting the number of superchargers that CCS cars can use. It’s total crap for someone who keeps saying he’s trying to spread the adoption of EVs.
Tesla opens up 15,000+ dispensers to third party vehicles overnight and this is the conclusion that you make? I'm not a fan of Elon, but really?

Yeah, I’ve been charging my my Rivian on Tesla superchargers for months now. Here’s a picture from December. I also include an image of the session details.
I think the OP was referring to the availability of dispensers without magic docks.
 

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Rivians will not work until they are officially launched on the Supercharger network regardless of you having an adapter. There is an authorization process that validates the type of vehicle at the dispenser prior to the start of charging. (excluding Magicdock sites)

It might look like you can do this in the Tesla app. You cannot. :(
Hence my confusion. The consensus appears to be what you're saying but @baker appears to be indicating otherwise. Not trying to muddy the waters-just looking for clarification from @baker. Cheers.
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