To your point, from what I read Rivian was also in agreement in this decision. For Rivian, IMO, this is also low hanging fruit to help create space in production time lines that are currently getting squeezed and pushed out. Rivian has to give priority to the R1T and R1S production with the Amazon vans to follow closely behind. There are still enough doubters out there regarding Rivian. The best thing Rivian can do to help squelch that noise is to focus and launch their own vehicles sooner than latter *and* with quality. Hopefully with this development it sharpens Rivian's focus on those tasks and maybe down the road they can (and probably will) partner up with other builds. To be honest, I actually prefer there be less on Rivian's plate at this point.Here's why Ford is pulling out of its Rivian alliance. It's losing money hand over fist, with second quarter figures just being released.
Ford can't afford to pay Rivian for its skateboard and the costs of assembly in Normal. The impact of Ford's withdrawal isn't too great on Rivian, as Rivian's production capacity was already being stretched pretty thin with three models, R1T, R1S and Amazon vans, slated for production in a newly refurbished and expanded plant. In the short run, this might be a plus for pre-order holders. Fewer complications, more focus on Rivian and Amazon trucks. Long term, the more skateboards, models and re-badged vehicles Rivian can produce, the better.
Yea, I had that same after thought. Ford sharing their production expertise I believe had assuaged some people's concerns in the area of Rivian's production quality and speed in ramping up to meet demand.I only hope that Rivian didnt have to give up the production assitance I hope Ford is giving them as part of the partnership.
With that said Rivian has never run an assembly line and Tesla had huge problems and delays that I was hoping Rivian would avoid with a helping hand. So long as the build quality is good ( fingers crossed ) I am all in still.The value of Ford's production expertise certainly isn't something to dismiss but their most recent launches (thinking Explorer and Aviator) have been very troubling from a quality perspective. Their inability to execute is certainly a contributor their current financial woes.
Scaringe is described by one of his earliest advisors as being as much of a manufacturing nerd as he is an automotive nerd. He also seems less interested in reinventing things unnecessarily or setting goals before understanding what the realistic time frames are. There will be bumps, but you don't have to learn all the lessons the hard way, like Musk does.With that said Rivian has never run an assembly line and Tesla had huge problems and delays that I was hoping Rivian would avoid with a helping hand. So long as the build quality is good ( fingers crossed ) I am all in still.
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