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I agree that it's better, I just don't think it's going to get you an extra 50 miles of range in the winter.
Correct, it is more like 30. Still... Given the option, I'd like that 30 miles back please.
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My question for the MN guys is what efficiency loss do you see in the cold weather? Just in high 30s in central Illinois now and I'm down 15 percent (at least). I've got 49,000 miles on this going into my 2nd winter, and I would not buy an R1T if I lived any further north. Needs a heat pump bad. Supposedly the new DM in the oil bath dies better, but I haven't heard any real world numbers.
This is going to be really dependent on your temperature preferences. I only see about a 5-7% hit in the winter going from Northern IL to northern WI. However I only use the heat to defog the windshield.

I enjoy the cold so just wearing my hoodie(which is my winter jacket) in the car is enough for me.

Worst was last Christmas i had to make the Trip from Chicago to Normal. Started at 85% and almost didn't make it to the Walmart to charge. 20-25mph headwind and had to have the heat on for my parents. I had about 5 miles remaining when i pulled up.
 

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This is going to be really dependent on your temperature preferences. I only see about a 5-7% hit in the winter going from Northern IL to northern WI. However I only use the heat to defog the windshield.

I enjoy the cold so just wearing my hoodie(which is my winter jacket) in the car is enough for me.

Worst was last Christmas i had to make the Trip from Chicago to Normal. Started at 85% and almost didn't make it to the Walmart to charge. 20-25mph headwind and had to have the heat on for my parents. I had about 5 miles remaining when i pulled up.
That is a good point. I never thought of the heat being a big battery draw. BTW, those Normal chargers will now only peak at about half power due to over use. I visited with the tech working on them last week. EA would like to upgrade/replace, but Walmart won't extend the lease. At least not yet.🙄.
 

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I had three nails in my tires in the last year. No idea where I picked them up, unless someone was tossing nails out on the dirt roads.
But Discount Tire was very easy to work with and fixed them quickly with no fuss. And no fee. They just want you to be happy and come back to buy tires from them. Which I already do anyway, for my old-fashioned ICE vehicle I still have.
 

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That is a good point. I never thought of the heat being a big battery draw. BTW, those Normal chargers will now only peak at about half power due to over use. I visited with the tech working on them last week. EA would like to upgrade/replace, but Walmart won't extend the lease. At least not yet.🙄.
Good to know, I'll probably be down for Thanksgiving. The Madison WI EA charger is the same way.
 

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That puncture may be too close to the sidewall for a reputable/risk averse tire shop to plug or patch.
Ummm, no! That puncture is ideal for a plug (inserted from outside) or a patch (applied to the inside of the tire). Done properly either one will last the life of the tire.
 

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Ummm, no! That puncture is ideal for a plug (inserted from outside) or a patch (applied to the inside of the tire). Done properly either one will last the life of the tire.
Most tire shops won't repair a defect within 1/2 inch of the shoulder. That one looks pretty close but it's hard to tell from the angle of photo.
 

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find the person who put the nail there. Demand a new set of 20 or buy out your R1T
 

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Most tire shops won't repair a defect within 1/2 inch of the shoulder. That one looks pretty close but it's hard to tell from the angle of photo.
Are we looking at the same puncture? It's nowhere near the shoulder. It's all the way near the first rain groove:

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I did get it plugged. Drove around with the kids for Halloween tonight. I’ll see how it goes, but I don’t feel as shitty about it as I did 24 hours ago. Discount Tire did it for free.

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So here in Minnesota it snowed early on us. We had a pretty wet and slushy snow today that had accumulated for a few hours and I decided with what I assumed to be very few cars on the road - a good chance to give the 21s the chance I’ve been waiting for. I started in all purpose but quickly went into snow mode. The roads were far worse than I had anticipated.

I took the Rivian on backroads, main roads, and even on the freeway. We went around corners, down and up hills, I did a couple U turns and even let the car go from 50 to let off the throttle and also used the brakes a couple times.

I did not come away from my 35 minute journey overly impressed, but I definitely felt way more confident than what I felt like I was gonna feel. My nerves driving the vehicle were less from the vehicle itself and more just my expectations of disaster.

What I can say is.. for strolling around town I don’t think the 21s would give much issue. Turning back into my development slid a touch but corrected quickly which wasn’t super inspiring and there were a few moments of slippage coming to a complete stop that I didn’t find ideal. The Rivian didn’t get out of control and that’s the good news. The freeway driving even with the cars going slow I didn’t really care for from a feel of the road perspective but that could also have more to do with there being way more unexpected cars on the freeway than I thought.

Overall I get home and mostly think the trip was a success if not some drawbacks.. then I hear a hissing noise and immediately knew what to expect. The screw was right there for me to see and hear. Only 4000 miles and a couple months old what a bummer but obviously.. could have been worse.

I’m expecting this tire to be flat by the morning. I’ll likely try and get to discount tire when they open and hope for a quick flat repair. I was looking into buying the 20s and getting a dedicated snow tire.. but now.. not even sure what my plan should be. There isn’t another tire option for the 21s so right now it just would appear I need to buy a whole new set of something.. or sell the Rivian. Ha! What are the suggestions of the group?

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Same thing happened to one of my 21's. My tire guy plugged it and it lasted until replacement at 17,600 wonderful miles.
 

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So here in Minnesota it snowed early on us. We had a pretty wet and slushy snow today that had accumulated for a few hours and I decided with what I assumed to be very few cars on the road - a good chance to give the 21s the chance I’ve been waiting for. I started in all purpose but quickly went into snow mode. The roads were far worse than I had anticipated.

I took the Rivian on backroads, main roads, and even on the freeway. We went around corners, down and up hills, I did a couple U turns and even let the car go from 50 to let off the throttle and also used the brakes a couple times.

I did not come away from my 35 minute journey overly impressed, but I definitely felt way more confident than what I felt like I was gonna feel. My nerves driving the vehicle were less from the vehicle itself and more just my expectations of disaster.

What I can say is.. for strolling around town I don’t think the 21s would give much issue. Turning back into my development slid a touch but corrected quickly which wasn’t super inspiring and there were a few moments of slippage coming to a complete stop that I didn’t find ideal. The Rivian didn’t get out of control and that’s the good news. The freeway driving even with the cars going slow I didn’t really care for from a feel of the road perspective but that could also have more to do with there being way more unexpected cars on the freeway than I thought.

Overall I get home and mostly think the trip was a success if not some drawbacks.. then I hear a hissing noise and immediately knew what to expect. The screw was right there for me to see and hear. Only 4000 miles and a couple months old what a bummer but obviously.. could have been worse.

I’m expecting this tire to be flat by the morning. I’ll likely try and get to discount tire when they open and hope for a quick flat repair. I was looking into buying the 20s and getting a dedicated snow tire.. but now.. not even sure what my plan should be. There isn’t another tire option for the 21s so right now it just would appear I need to buy a whole new set of something.. or sell the Rivian. Ha! What are the suggestions of the group?

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I’ve had to replace 2 tires, both 21s, in 5500 miles. From this pic, seems like you should replace rather than repair, but ask. Mine was definitely in the replace area. At Discount Tire now. Sorry, it sucks.

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I did get it plugged. Drove around with the kids for Halloween tonight. I’ll see how it goes, but I don’t feel as shitty about it as I did 24 hours ago. Discount Tire did it for free.

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That's a mushroom style plug, which is the best type of plug you can get. I keep a plug kit of those things in all of our vehicles. The plugs have a mushroom head and require no glue at all. Super easy to install and can even be done without taking the wheel off the vehicle.
 

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Electric vechicles attract nails like nobody's business. I've had a dozen flats over a dozen years of EV ownership, and about half of those have been nails. And I live in the suburbs!
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