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Are you telling me I can get better range by powdercoating my wheels dark?!?! 🤯😂

Thanks for the great post, can't wait to be pulling similar with my R1S!
It’s amazing how much better the darker wheels handle too. ;)

Yeah I probably could have phrased that a little better.

 

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So some feedback and rough numbers on our first real towing experience.

TLDR: Tows amazingly well. Range limited for sure but not as much as we expected. 21s are pretty good on this truck.

Took my son up to the NoGA mountains yesterday for his first pavement motorcycle time. He has been riding dirtbikes since little and we have been prepping to do some real dualsporting together and maybe do some TAT. We trailered up to Two Wheels Only in Suches and did an easy 60-ish mile mixed/light dual sport route. Had a blast...despite/including the brief downpour and he did great.

Trailering specs:

R1T with 21's (road wheel/road tire)
7 x 12 single axle enclosed utility trailer (loaded with a couple dual sport bikes...500-EXC and WR250R) and some gear. Not heavily loaded by any stretch.
From our house to TWO is 56 miles on Google maps...couple quick side stops, call it 120 miles RT. I did not set an odometer unfortunately.
Route is mix of suburban roads, highway (GA400/16) and mountain windy (some very windy RT 60) and decent elevation changes

We left house full (300/150 Towing). Drove normally. Not flying not slow. Averaged 70 on the highway. Waved at another Rivian.)
~120 Towing Miles later backed into driveway with 55 miles remaining.
So for this trip call it 175 miles of range...though I know it's not that simple. But it's definitely more than 150...for this trip...with this trailer...on these wheels and tires.

Thoughts:

- WOW this thing trailers well. It is literally like nothing is back there. In fact you have to be careful not to forget and subject your cargo to forces you probably don't want to.

- That WOW includes not just acceleration but handling. GA RT60 has some switchbacks starting to rival Tail of the Dragon and if felt like we were driving a sportscar. I'd have been impressed with it even if we hadn't been towing a trailer.

- My thought is this is a more realistic example of what most people's towing will be. Boat to ramp, etc. Maybe farther if you're overnighting or staying longer. In that case grab an RV campsite or tesla destination charger and top off (or just fast charge if there is one on the way). It's enough for us.

With that said...I am curious as to how different our numbers would have been with 20 ATs. I have a set on order...who knows when I will see them. I do plan on keeping the 21s but don't want to have to swap them for a day/weekend trip like this. I didn't really love the 21s when I got the truck...it was one of the concessions I had to make to get the truck earlier. But now that I have been driving on them, I think functionally for most people's REAL uses (most people not all) it's probably the best combo. They do ride nice I know that. Powdercoat em if you don't like the 'flower' look. (Or get the the 20 or 22 that you love and just understand the range impact if it could be an issue for you.)

Similarly I got 19s and 21s on our model S. Ran the 21s for a long time. Definitely look cooler. In the end powercoated the 19s dark and put them back on. Better ride and better range.

But all in all continues to be a VERY VERY impressive vehicle. Knock wood. (Just give me CarPlay and fix the front axle cv/control-arm tock/tock/creak.)

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what was the estimated weight of the trailer and its contents inside?
 


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I would definitely use your trip A or B next time to get real data. Did you actually "start directions" on Google maps? Mileage usually changes from preview.
 

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A little off topic but is it possible to load the KTM in the bed? If you were just bringing just one bike? Possibly at a 45 with the tailgate down? I have been looking at dual sport bikes and really want a 500 but can’t get any good specs on the length, without going into the local dealer with a tape measure! 🤪
 
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I would definitely use your trip A or B next time to get real data. Did you actually "start directions" on Google maps? Mileage usually changes from preview.
Yes (of course). And I know the route very well.
 
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A little off topic but is it possible to load the KTM in the bed? If you were just bringing just one bike? Possibly at a 45 with the tailgate down? I have been looking at dual sport bikes and really want a 500 but can’t get any good specs on the length, without going into the local dealer with a tape measure! 🤪
Good question. We are working on that.

My 21 500 EXC-F Measures ~87" long, front tire edge to rear tire edge. The contact patch of the rear tire sits at ~73-74" back from the front tire.

The R1T Bed is 7Ft / 84" (from the very front wall of the bed to the edge of the open tailgage.) A chock system is going to push that back at least a little (and I think (from what I've read in other threads) you need to back it off some anyway to keep it off the tonneau cover).

That cuts it pretty close with the bike straight in....leaving the contact patch about 10-11 inches in from the edge. Less than that with a chock. I haven't looked into how far back something like the BuiltRight system with a chock is going to push that back.

So if you said a rail/chock setback of 3" that's gonna put it pretty close to the edge of the tailgate...with a 6" overhang (which is likely going to preclude use of a tailgate extender). But still probably ok.

Again that's all straight-in. I don't think any issue with the bike angled. Ideally we would like to get two in if possible. I have seen some vids of loading two bikes with handlbars angled with front wheels tucked in corners. Maybe that's an option.

I haven't hauled bikes in truck beds so I really need to defer to others on whether this all adds up to something reasonably/safely doable.

This seems like a pretty good sub-thread... "Dirt bikes in R1T Bed"

Love to hear opinions from some experienced truck bed haulers.

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The gooseneck tailgate hinge was a great innovation by Rivian. We can easily 4 x 8 sheets of drywall/plywood.

With a Jeep Gladiator you need to cut three 2 x 4’s and install them in the bed slots to elevate the material above the wheel wells.

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Good question. We are working on that.

My 21 500 EXC-F Measures ~87" long, front tire edge to rear tire edge. The contact patch of the rear tire sits at ~73-74" back from the front tire.

The R1T Bed is 7Ft / 84" (from the very front wall of the bed to the edge of the open tailgage.) A chock system is going to push that back at least a little (and I think (from what I've read in other threads) you need to back it off some anyway to keep it off the tonneau cover).

That cuts it pretty close with the bike straight in....leaving the contact patch about 10-11 inches in from the edge. Less than that with a chock. I haven't looked into how far back something like the BuiltRight system with a chock is going to push that back.

So if you said a rail/chock setback of 3" that's gonna put it pretty close to the edge of the tailgate...with a 6" overhang (which is likely going to preclude use of a tailgate extender). But still probably ok.

Again that's all straight-in. I don't think any issue with the bike angled. Ideally we would like to get two in if possible. I have seen some vids of loading two bikes with handlbars angled with front wheels tucked in corners. Maybe that's an option.

I haven't hauled bikes in truck beds so I really need to defer to others on whether this all adds up to something reasonably/safely doable.

This seems like a pretty good sub-thread... "Dirt bikes in R1T Bed"

Love to hear opinions from some experienced truck bed haulers.

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Thanks so much! That is exactly what I needed to see. Seems like it should be pretty straight forward, just need to find something to keep it off the tonneau cover.

I agree we need a thread about bikes in the r1t bed!
 

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Nice looking WR. Loved mine for the few years I had it.

Based on my limited towing experience in my truck, I agree with your towing experiences. Very effortless, and about what I would expect for range, maybe even slightly better. Aero is the biggest factor, not so much weight.
 
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As @pfbz mentioned the @RivianXpress thread is pretty definitive.

I did a temporary/short-drive single bike load today. Dropping R1T off for service tomorrow and decided to use the trip as a test and load up a bike and ride home.

Just straps for now (with some back tension to keep the front wheel off the tonneau cover.) I don’t love it without a front chock but It’s a relatively short hop and I did a a decent test drive this afternoon. “That ain’t goin’ nowhere!” (Only works with the double negative and a slap. My son corrects me if I mess it up.)

I did order the Builtright panel and a couple front wheel chocks for long term use.

Loading the one bike was easy. Loading and strapping two will be a little more work but certainly doable. Really want some sort of rear gate/net. Wish there was a high anchor point on the back. Would probably do one of the nets but with the extra strap probably amounts to same thing.

Ramps fit great in the tunnel.

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On way to the KTM rally in Idaho- I don’t recommend the Winnemucca to Boise route unless you get a 100% charge at Walmart in Winnemucca. I charged to 256 miles at Walmart and to 196 at Quinn river - 176 miles to Boise Walmart - drafted a semi, drove slow all the way to Boise and just made it

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