"Firesale page"

[Lizardo]

Hi

Tried to see what needs to go, but website just shows 6 items. But doesn't list or show what is on the page.

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[camaroz1985]

Same for me.

Sad to see this happening, was nice to have all of their product offerings, but I suppose it was only a matter of time.

 

[NY_Rob]

Check one of the boxes on the left and items appear...

 

[Lizardo]

Thanks. Had to login to see it.

 

[NY_Rob]

It's okay if you manufacture and sell non-licensed logo items on Amazon, but the little guy's can't do it

 

[camaroz1985]

Looks like the fixed something, I didn't have to login or check anything.

I'm surprised that the emblem kits are still allowed. I would have thought that would have been high on the list of the corporate lawyers to remove. Maybe it is because they don't show on the Rivian product pages.

 

[Mark_AZR1T]

Looks like the fixed something, I didn't have to login or check anything.

I'm surprised that the emblem kits are still allowed. I would have thought that would have been high on the list of the corporate lawyers to remove. Maybe it is because they don't show on the Rivian product pages.

Rivian is the most aggressive protector of TM and IP, we have ever seen. More so than, Porsche, Mercedes, Lamborghini......the Compass Logo is trademarked as well. For Abstract it's only a few items and basically stickers....and such.

 

[Ironcitijc]

Check one of the boxes on the left and items appear...

Thanks. I had the same problem, just saw “6 items”

 

[UnsungZero_OldTimeAdMan]

It's okay if you manufacture and sell non-licensed logo items on Amazon, but the little guy's can't do it

Amazon has more $ for lawyers.

 

[RWerksman]

It's okay if you manufacture and sell non-licensed logo items on Amazon, but the little guy's can't do it

The thing about Amazon is that most of the listings on there are from 3rd parties. Most of those third parties are from China as well, and the barrier to entry to setting up shop on Amazon is very, very low. It's more a game of whackamole than anything.

Rivian is the most aggressive protector of TM and IP, we have ever seen. More so than, Porsche, Mercedes, Lamborghini......the Compass Logo is trademarked as well. For Abstract it's only a few items and basically stickers....and such.

I concur with the fact they are very insistent. In my experience, they were also remarkably flexible and easy to work with in order to obtain compliance and provided guidance on what to do going forward. There is a reason, for instance, why the Rangefinder Key Fob Surrounds don't even use the color names.

If nothing else, I at least can appreciate the attempt to be timely and consistent. I know of other vehicle manufacturers that began enforcement all of a sudden after people had invested a TON of money into products that the OEM didn't care about for years. Then they did, and it was a really, really big deal.

Some of this goes back to US copyright and trademark law. Simply, if you don't defend it, you can't claim it.

It sucks though for people who want these as I can't see a Rivian branded product like it, and they don't seem interested in licensing the logo at all.

 

[WattTruckMatt]

Tufskinz got hit as well. Glad I got my overlays a while ago... Too bad as these were ore OEM quality than just vinyl stickers.

 

[citizen]

Woah, what happened? Did I miss another thread re: Rivian coming down on AO?

 

[kong]

Not sure what’s going on, but @AO_Pete I, like many others, have loved the quality of your products. I hope this is just a clearing of inventory rather than a shift away from Rivian…

 

[AO_Pete]

Morning all

So a bit of background, Rivian "IP Protection" asked us to remove the 6 products in question. We knew we were walking a thin line, and we've been around this block many times with Tesla. In the past, Rivian has used a 3rd party company that just used bots to look for matching images, so this time around is a little different, and their email was actually quite nice, not the usual 'take them down or else'.

Of course, I replied in the hope we can reach someone to discuss a licensing agreement. Most the other OEMs have such things, but, notably, Tesla does not. I hope Rivian is different. As others have pointed out, there's no end of logo'd crapware on eBay, Amazon, Alibaba etc, but they have the benefit of being at least 2 layers removed, one of which being in a country that doesn't care about US trademarks.

We're not here to compete with Rivian, and I think/hope our products would meet their quality expectations, so for now we'll treat this as a positive step forward, and see where it goes.

 

[Ric G]

I have a side business of making and selling old school "BoostValve" manual turbo boost controllers. I designed it myself back in the late 90's and over the years been quite successful. For awhile I tried selling them on Amazon but was constantly dealing with tradmark issues. I couldn't even use the Ford or VW name let alone powerstroke or SVO etc. (Still sell a lot to those guys. Its amazing how many turbocoupes are still around!).

Typically Amazon would send an email stating:
"We have taken this measure because we suspect your listing for this product infringes on the intellectual property of others. The product detail page for this product uses the protected trademark term of another rights owner. We have not been able to confirm that you are authorized to use this trademark on the product detail page. Unauthorized use of this trademark is likely to cause confusion as to the source, endorsement, or affiliation of the goods. Infringement of a trademark is a violation of Amazon Intellectual Property Policy"

It's really difficult to market an aftermarket product without mentioning what its for!
(Amazon seller fees were so high anyway that I just decided to market through my own website.)

I certainly hope Rivian sees the aftermarket industry as a plus and I would think as a new company a thriving aftermarket can only help gain interest, exposure and name recognition.

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