F-150 Lightning announced pricing pushing buyers to Rivian

[Rivian_Hugh_III]

Rivian's value prop had better be higher because they don't have the brand to back up what they are selling. Nobody would look at Rivian if it only matched what Ford was doing. It has to be a superior product and it has to be a superior value in order to overcome the loss-aversion bias against a well-known brand.

Besides, if Rivian goes out of business in 5 years we'll be left with a truck that no one wants to service and a warranty that will not exist. That's a huge... what's the opposite of "value proposition"?... suck factor?

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[Dbeglor]

Besides, if Rivian goes out of business in 5 years we'll be left with a truck that no one wants to service and a warranty that will not exist. That's a huge... what's the opposite of "value proposition"?... suck factor?

You could say the same about GM or Ford to some degree honestly.... But in either case, they don't just vanish into thin air. Rivian won't ever just go out of business, they would be bought by someone else and all of this would be inherited.

 

[fotoflux]

You could say the same about GM or Ford to some degree honestly.... But in either case, they don't just vanish into thin air. Rivian won't ever just go out of business, they would be bought by someone else and all of this would be inherited.

Anybody remember Fisker. I wonder what happened to the original Fisker cars when the company folded years back. I don't think there was much warranty support of any kind.

 

[godfodder0901]

Anybody remember Fisker. I wonder what happened to the original Fisker cars when the company folded years back. I don't think there was much warranty support of any kind.

Bought by a Chinese investment firm and they still sell them as the Karma Revero:
Karma Automotive | Luxury Electric Cars
They look unchanged for the most part, so Fisker Karma owners may be able to but parts?

 

[ironpig]

Anybody remember Fisker. I wonder what happened to the original Fisker cars when the company folded years back. I don't think there was much warranty support of any kind.

I actually know a guy who still has one and is driving it. I think he has someone in LA who can service it, but I'll ask him. I'm curious too. I doubt the new company wants anything to do with the old cars in terms of service and support.

 

[Spiffster]

Comparing Fisker to Rivian is insane... not even in the same ballpark. Rivian is backed by Ford and Amazon. Not to mention the quality difference is night and day. Fisker was selling a friggin sports sedan PHEV vs SUV and Truck. Vastly more popular products in the US (just about anywhere else really). Silly to compare the two, it really is.

 

[ironpig]

I just got a call from my Listed Ford dealer apologizing for the contact I got last night and assuring me there would not be a mark up on a pre-ordered vehicle. So we'll see.

 

[EVTrukHog]

My configured Lightning (Platinum) is almost exactly the same price as my configured R1T (Max+RTT+Kitchen)... I'm playing both options but hope to get the R1T first.

 

[skyote]

The Lightning Pro with vegan leather (vinyl) and a few options is an incredible value, especially after tax incentives.

I'm literally thinking of ordering & following through with it. I'll pay ~$1500 to have Katzkin leather & aftermarket seat heaters installed. With the Pro Power, I feel good about being able to use it for emergency backup as well (without V2H if needed).

 

[ironpig]

The Lightning Pro with vegan leather (vinyl) and a few options is an incredible value, especially after tax incentives.

I'm literally thinking of ordering & following through with it. I'll pay ~$1500 to have Katzkin leather & aftermarket seat heaters installed. With the Pro Power, I feel good about being able to use it for emergency backup as well (without V2H if needed).

I think it's fairly priced and I agree that it has a lot of great features. Personally I don't want leather, on any car, but it's super easy to get upgraded Katzkins for an F-150 not to mention so many other after market options for F-150s because of how many there are on the road.

For me, I like the Rivian form factor with it's slightly smaller size and overall design but I'm keeping my order with the Lightning and looking forward to driving it. If Rivian keeps slipping on their delivery and the Lightning comes in first I'll buy it and then sell it to a family member when the Rivian is available.

 

[GOFAST]

I think it's fairly priced and I agree that it has a lot of great features. Personally I don't want leather, on any car, but it's super easy to get upgraded Katzkins for an F-150 not to mention so many other after market options for F-150s because of how many there are on the road.

For me, I like the Rivian form factor with it's slightly smaller size and overall design but I'm keeping my order with the Lightning and looking forward to driving it. If Rivian keeps slipping on their delivery and the Lightning comes in first I'll buy it and then sell it to a family member when the Rivian is available.

You could do that unless Ford follows through with no resale provision.

 

[ironpig]

You could do that unless Ford follows through with no resale provision.

Haha -yeah good luck to them with that. That has to be added by the dealer and you'd have to be insane to agree to it. If I pay cash for the vehicle I can do whatever I want with it in California after I take possession.

 

[DuckTruck]

I think it's fairly priced and I agree that it has a lot of great features. Personally I don't want leather, on any car, but it's super easy to get upgraded Katzkins for an F-150 not to mention so many other after market options for F-150s because of how many there are on the road.

For me, I like the Rivian form factor with it's slightly smaller size and overall design but I'm keeping my order with the Lightning and looking forward to driving it. If Rivian keeps slipping on their delivery and the Lightning comes in first I'll buy it and then sell it to a family member when the Rivian is available.

I absolutely love that many people here have voiced that they'll be buying both a Rivian and one or more of the other new electric truck offerings. That tipping point for EVs becoming normalized gets closer with every EV that people see in motion around them. I remember when every head turned as a Tesla rolled up. Now I'm more likely to hear someone comment about Tesla's nice colors or maybe their wheel options. In other words, they're talked about like every other car.

I'm looking forward to the day that similar, mundane conversations revolve around various electric pickups and SUVs:

Billy: "Are those 21-inch All-Terrain tires on that Rivian?"

Bob: "Yeah, they sure are!"

Billy: "I wonder who makes them?"

Bob: "Pirelli"

Billy: "I can see that, dumbass! I mean the Rivian!"

I feel the same way about charging stations. Once they're seen everywhere and none of them are opened with a ribbon-cutting ceremony that features politicians making speeches and kissing babies, we will have arrived at a better place. A better place for the Earth....and those babies.

 

[ironpig]

I absolutely love that many people here have voiced that they'll be buying both a Rivian and one or more of the other new electric truck offerings. That tipping point for EVs becoming normalized gets closer with every EV that people see in motion around them. I remember when every head turned as a Tesla rolled up. Now I'm more likely to hear someone comment about Tesla's nice colors or maybe their wheel options. In other words, they're talked about like every other car.

I'm looking forward to the day that similar, mundane conversations revolve around various electric pickups and SUVs:

Billy: "Are those 21-inch All-Terrain tires on that Rivian?"

Bob: "Yeah, they sure are!"

Billy: "I wonder who makes them?"

Bob: "Pirelli"

Billy: "I can see that, dumbass! I mean the Rivian!"

I feel the same way about charging stations. Once they're seen everywhere and none of them are opened with a ribbon-cutting ceremony that features politicians making speeches and kissing babies, we will have arrived at a better place. A better place for the Earth....and those babies.

I’ve had a Tesla for many years and it completely changed the way I look at a car. But we still have gas vehicles because we need to do truck things with our horses etc.

I’m so looking forward to having EV truck options and I hope they are all successful products. But for me the Rivian is still the most coveted at the moment.

 

[RivianXpress]

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Here Are The Options To Check If You Want Your Ford Lightning To Be As Expensive As A Rivian R1T

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