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I think the difference between the Nissan system as well as Tesla is they are not hands free. The Rivian system (although not fully deployed yet) is more like Ford’s Blue Cruise and GM’s Super Cruise that are designed to be hands free on pre-mapped or pre-qualified roads.
I used it yesterday (I-95 in Florida) and you’re right it’s basically advanced cruise control. It’s aggravating you change lanes and I had to re-initiate it every time. I’m not too worried though, as time goes on they will push more updates (it’s understandable it’s still in its infancy stage).As per the original description, Driver+ would only be available in certain HWYs (mapped routes), which would enable Auto Steer/Lane Centering with Adaptive Cruise Control. Which I thought was a very limited system and had thought would be upgraded when in production to be in line with all the current ADAS implementations.
But now seeing all the reviews I am kind of disappointed that they stuck to their original version, and when you compare it to most if not all the ADAS implementations, Driver+ is outdated. The fact that it is only a Dynamic Cruise Control on all roads is no better than what I have in my 10-year-old car.
For comparison, here is what is out in the market right now,
ADAS System Autosteer/Lane Centering Adaptive Cruise Control Lane Changes Hands Free Tesla Autopilot X X - - Tesla Autopilot w FSD X X X - BMW Driver Professional X X X - Ford Co-Pilot 360 X X - - Ford CP360 w Blue Cruise X X - X (Limited to mapped HWY) Polestar Pilot Assist X X _ - Hyundai/KIA HDA X X - - Hyundai/KIA HDA2 X X X (Mapped HWY) - Rivian - X - - Rivian Driver+ X (Limited to mapped HWY) X - -
Based on this Rivian is the least advanced ADAS system on the market and personally for me this is a big deal breaker, because one of the technological advancements I am looking for in my next car is an advanced ADAS system, and at the moment Rivian is not it.
Feels like Rivian built this system to be hands free from grounds up, but like everything Rivian they did not execute this plan, so instead of planning on developing the 'true' hands free tech (internal cameras, sensors to monitor eye/head placement), they delayed it, kept the Autosteer/Lane Centering, and limited it to mapped HWYs.
Hopefully, since I am not expected to get my R1S till 2023, I am really hoping they make upgrades to Driver+, or at least disable the 'Mapped' HWY restriction for Autosteer and allow it for all roads.
Does anyone feel like Driver+ is very limited or is everyone OK with it as is?
I do not like buying vehicles with 'future feature' promises and buy them based on what is being offered when I buy it.
Because there is no guarantee when these features would be made available or when they would be made available.
Driver+ will only engage autosteer with Lane centering on hwys that are mapped.
I haven't even been able to get Driver+ to engage - not one single time. Each attempt just results in a Driver+ currently unavailable msg. I've tried multiple times on I90 which is a major East-West transcontinental interstate. The oddity is when I took my demo drive, Driver+ did function in this same area. I suspect Rivian is rolling out this feature on an extremely limited vehicle by vehicle basis. The real problem is without rolling out more broadly, they won't ever collect enough training data to improve it.
Improving with time and user data
I've always been content with a fancy interstate cruise control. I never got over the Tesla FSD team quitting en masse. Clearly they had problems with it, too...
Dumb take.
It's really hard to overstate just how much more I enjoy driving with autopilot (AP1) on my Tesla. The difference having the car keeping you safe in your lane and dealing with the other idiots cutting you off vs normal driving is like reducing 25% of the driving time, if not halving it. This combined with the built-in stops for charging has completely changed how I feel about long-distance drives, which we used to make several times a year visiting family 400+ miles away.
Same here. I am really hoping Rivian would decouple the Lane Centering/Autosteer from mapped HWY and make it a standard ADAS functionality. Without this Driver+ definitely feels limited and below industry standards. Doesn't make any sense why they decided to limit Lane Centering just to mapped HWYs.
Dumb take. Really. To each their own. You can take care of your fatigue every 3 hours or so when you stop to charge your vehicle. I’ll try not to make fun of you because you are from north of the border.
